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they shouldn't.

Max should have got the points in that case.

A thought I had on the sprint qualifying points...Bottas won the sprint but took a grid penalty and started last, yet still got the three points for winning the sprint. To me, this would be like a driver winning a race with a time penalty, yet still getting the points for first place despite dropping down the order. Surely grid penalties for sprint qualifying should have the same effect as time penalties in the Grand Prix? If you go back to Silverstone, Russell was given a three-place grid penalty for causing a collision in the sprint rather than a time penalty. If he had finished in the top three in that sprint, would he have kept the points as it was a grid penalty rather than a time penalty?

Did he take the engine prior to the quali sprint? or between the sprint and the race?

If he took it prior to quali then he really should have had the penalty applied prior to going into it. Just another of those stupid F1 rule quirks I guess.

taken from speedcafe page - https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/09/13/verstappen-penalised-for-hamilton-clash/

Stewards’ decision in full

The Stewards heard from the driver of car 33 (Max Verstappen), the driver of car 44 (Lewis Hamilton) and team representatives, reviewed the video evidence and determined that the driver of Car 33 was predominantly to blame for the collision with Car 44 at Turn 2.

Car 44 was exiting the pits. Car 33 was on the main straight. At the 50m board before Turn 1, Car 44 was significantly ahead of Car 33. Car 33 braked late and started to move alongside Car 44, although at no point in the sequence does Car 33 get any further forward than just behind the front wheel of Car 44.

During the hearing the driver of Car 33 asserted that the cause of the incident was the driver of Car 44 opening the steering after Turn 1 and “squeezing” him to the apex of turn 2. The driver of Car 44 asserted that the driver of Car 33 attempted to pass very late and should have given up the corner either by backing off sooner, or by turning left behind the kerb.

The Stewards observed on CCTV footage that the driver of Car 44 was driving an avoiding line, although his position caused Car 33 to go onto the kerb. But further, the Stewards observed that Car 33 was not at all alongside Car 44 until significantly into the entry into Turn 1. In the opinion of the Stewards, this manoeuvre was attempted too late for the driver of Car 33 to have “the right to racing room”. While Car 44 could have steered further from the kerb to avoid the incident, the Stewards determined that his position was reasonable and therefore find that the driver of Car 33 was predominantly to blame for the incident.

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they make the point that Max braked late... of course he did, he was at full race pace having just belted down the full straight so he would be braking from 300+... LH just out of the pits would have had a substantially lower speed when he hit the anchors.

guess they have just decided that it is ok to run drivers off the road if they are only alongside you in F1 now... sheesh...

What if say, the first 3 or 4 days was the Repco Bathurst 1000 and the next couple were the Supercheap whatever.
Sort of 2 meetings back to back.

only way I could see something like this being a working thing would be to start the lower categories early on with 2 prac sessions and quali on Tue/Wed, 'higher' categories to start prac/quali Thu/Fri along with races for the lowers, and the TCR 500 Sat afternoon and the 1000 on Sun.

both major categories would demand the biggest air time

about bloody time!

https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/09/08/supercars-tcr-could-share-bill-for-bathurst-festival/

Australia has needed a proper motorsport festival and most of us who attend are already there for a week anyway so a few extra days will work I think for most of us.

6 days of racing at Bathurst? YES PLEASE!!!!!!

Quote from: Sonic on September 07, 2021, 03:58:48 PM

Quote from: skaifeman on September 07, 2021, 03:21:22 PM

Quote from: Kytabu on September 07, 2021, 09:31:15 AM

Bottas confirmed at Alfa Romeo for 2022:
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/bottas-to-drive-for-alfa-romeo-f1-team-in-2022/6661654/

Only a matter of time until George is confirmed at Mercedes, then. 2022 will be an interesting year for the team!

Great move for the whole sport. Get to see what George can do, if he truly can challenge Lewis.
We also get to see if Bottas still has it - the jury has certainly been out. A move to a mid-pack team is probably the breath of fresh air he needs.

And we will see if Merc is prepared to let him race or if he is going to be made LH's pet boy

I'd think the fact they're bringing George up means they'd race. Otherwise you'd just leave Bottas there? Hope so anyway.

Hope so Sman... and if not I hope GR just goes out and whoops his ass and then moves to another team with the number 1!

Quote from: murph_fan51 on September 07, 2021, 12:33:56 PM

Would it be possible to have the same track layout?
It was a great event to watch on TV. One of my favourite street tracks, again viewing on TV.

No reason the previous street circuit wouldn't work - road wise.

unless there have been changes made in the almost 20 years since