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#1
Team Penske hit with penalties over Push to Pass use; O'Ward declared St. Petersburg winner

By Marshall Pruett | April 24, 2024 10:36 AM ET

The IndyCar Series has disqualified Josef Newgarden from the season-opening race in St. Petersburg which he won handily, disqualified teammate Scott McLaughlin from third and penalized Will Power with the loss of 10 points after determining Team Penske, the team owned by IndyCar Series owner Roger Penske, violated the series' push-to-pass rules.

Second-place finisher Pato O'Ward of Arrow McLaren has been promoted to first and awarded the win.

IndyCar's longstanding practice in its road and street course races is to disable the push-to-pass system, which gives drivers an extra shot of 50hp or so, prior to starts and restarts. The system only becomes active when the series enables the buttons on the steering wheel to command the engines to deliver the extra power.

During last weekend's event in Long Beach, the series found the three cars from Team Penske were able to bypass that software restriction and use push-to-pass at any time.

"During the Sunday, April 21 warmup session ahead of the Acura Grand Prix of Long Beach, IndyCar discovered the team's possible rules violation," the series stated.

"An extensive review of data from the race on the streets of St. Petersburg revealed that Team Penske manipulated the overtake system so that the No. 2, 3 and 12 cars had the ability to use Push to Pass on starts and restarts. According to the IndyCar rulebook, use of overtake is not available during championship races until the car reaches the alternate start-finish line. It was determined that the No. 2 and the No. 3 gained a competitive advantage by using Push to Pass on restarts while the No. 12 did not. Additionally, all three entries have been fined $25,000 and will forfeit all prize money associated with the streets of St. Petersburg race."

IndyCar president Jay Frye says the push-to-pass issue was rectified before Sunday's race won by Chip Ganassi Racing's Scott Dixon.

"The integrity of the IndyCar Series championship is critical to everything we do," Frye said. "While the violation went undetected at St. Petersburg, IndyCar discovered the manipulation during Sunday's warmup in Long Beach and immediately addressed it ensuring all cars were compliant for the Acura Grand Prix of Long Beach. Beginning with this week's race at Barber Motorsports Park, new technical inspection procedures will be in place to deter this violation."

Team Penske issued a statement through president Tim Cindric after the matter was made public by the series and blamed a software oversight for the problem and subsequent advantage that was seen when Newgarden streaked away from the field at St. Petersburg to win by more than eight seconds.

"Unfortunately, the push-to-pass software was not removed as it should have been, following recently completed hybrid testing in the Team Penske Indy cars," Cindric said. "This software allowed for push-to-pass to be deployed during restarts at the St. Petersburg Grand Prix race, when it should not have been permitted."

Cindric also acknowledged Newgarden and McLaughlin chose to use the illegal access to push-to-pass power, which calls into question whether the unfair advantage was known to exist in advance.

"The No. 2 car driven by Josef Newgarden and the No. 3 car driven by Scott McLaughlin, both deployed push-to-pass on a restart, which violated IndyCar rules," he added. "Team Penske accepts the penalties applied by IndyCar."

https://racer.com/2024/04/24/team-penske-hit-with-penalties-over-push-to-pass-use-oward-declared-st-petersburg-winner/
#2
Quote from: Helix on April 23, 2024, 08:38:39 PMGee those 888 cars dodge your voodoo tho Mike lol
Just another example of them being in a class of their own.  Maybe it is time to address success ballast?
#3
Well, let's see..... a lot of us picked up Percat (thanks, skaifeman).  He tanked this weekend.  At the expense of picking him up, most dropped Golding.  He had his best round,

Then comes Andre who was tossed for Brodie and Payne (myself).  Andre won Race 1.

David Reynolds was also a hot pickup prior to the round.  He wound up being a pinball and had an absolutely dismal NZ weekend.

So the moral of the story is, if all of us in the V8CFL got together and decided who to pickup and drop each round, we could actually determine the 2024 Supercars Champion.  Just go against what we picked and success will be had.

Inverse karma and the jinx.  Absolutely amazing how it works.
#4
Okay, boys.  The Taupo Results are posted.  A HUGE shakeup in the table.  TGI Racing and The Professor still lead but everything below them, including the gap to first, has been scrambled after this round.

In Race 1 (Race 7 for the Supercars) the 87 Car and the 25 Car were both penalised post race 30 team points.  The former for a loose wheel nut in pit lane and the latter for losing the wheel during the race on course.  Team point penalties are recognised by the V8CFL and therefore noted in the points tally for the aforementioned cars.

As for the Stewards Summary, everything else seems to have been dealt with in the races - time penalties.  HOWEVER, I cannot find a Stewards Summary for Race 2 (Race 8 for the Supercars).  The current Stewards Summary has not been updated with Race 2 (Race 8 for the Supercars).  So the results are tentative.  They might change.  I will keep my ear to the ground for the update if and when it comes.  Kye?  Any help here?

Race 1 Podium:
1 Ecurie SCarGo / stevo qld / Chevrolet Camaro
2 Ain't Care Motorsports / skaifeman / Chevrolet Camaro
3 TAA Performance / Jetpac013 / Ford Mustang V6 TT

Race 2 Podium:
1 Bundaberg Rum Racing / Troy01505 / Chevrolet Camaro
2 Ecurie SCarGo / stevo qld / Chevrolet Camaro
3 Super Seven Racing Aotearoa / formerlyHolden51 / Toyota Camry SX

As for The V8CFL Tournament, all have raced two races.  If you notice the tables in each division I have included the tiebreakers for all W-L records.  The tiebreakers themselves are noted at the bottom of the first post of the thread.  So from here on out I will keep all abreast of the actual placements within our two divisions.

Next up, WA.
#5
Bumparoo pre-Wanneroo.
#6
V8CFL Table / Through Round 3 / Taupo             Points  Race Finishes
 
                                                          1st  2nd  3rd  4th  5th


1  TGI Racing                   Professor         731     2    2    1    0    1  161   Chevrolet Camaro
2  Kalyara Racing Team          Kytabu            715     1    0    1    4    0   23   Ford Focus ST
3  Bundaberg Rum Racing         Troy01505         701     2    0    1    1    1  015   Chevrolet Camaro
4  Ecurie SCarGo                stevo qld         683     1    1    1    0    1   64   Chevrolet Camaro
5  Super Seven Racing Aotearoa  formerlyHolden51  681     1    1    1    0    1    7   Toyota Camry SX
6  TAA Performance              Jetpac013         673     0    2    1    0    3    1   Ford Mustang V6 TT
7  R&K Motorsports              mikeamerica84     651     0    1    2    1    0  084   Ford Mustang
8  Ain't Care Motorsports       skaifeman         606     0    1    0    0    0   38   Chevrolet Camaro
9  Shogun Autosport             Helix             591     1    0    0    1    1   75   Ford Mustang
10 The Arrow Motorsport         TheArrow          552     0    0    0    1    0   57   Genesis G70

************

Taupo

V8CFL Round 3 Race 1                              V8CFL Points    Supercar Points

1  Ecurie SCarGo                stevo qld         150             624
2  Ain't Care Motorsports       skaifeman         138             564
3  TAA Performance              Jetpac013         129             531
4  Bundaberg Rum Racing         Troy01505         120             525
5  Super Seven Racing Aotearoa  formerlyHolden51  111             516
6  The Arrow Motorsport         TheArrow          102             471
7  R&K Motorsports              mikeamerica84      96             471
8  Kalyara Racing Team          Kytabu             90             447
9  TGI Racing                   Professor          84             438
10 Shogun Autosport             Helix              78             366


1  Ecurie SCarGo                stevo qld          90  54 150  63 102  69  96 = 624
2  Ain't Care Motorsports       skaifeman          90  42 150  63 102  69  48 = 564
3  TAA Performance              Jetpac013           9  54 138  63 102  69  96 = 531
4  Bundaberg Rum Racing         Troy01505          54  42 111  63  57 102  96 = 525
5  Super Seven Racing Aotearoa  formerlyHolden51   54  42 150  63  57 102  48 = 516
6  The Arrow Motorsport         TheArrow            9  54 138  63  57 102  48 = 471 *
7  R&K Motorsports              mikeamerica84       9  42 138  63 102  69  48 = 471
8  Kalyara Racing Team          Kytabu              9  42  66  63 102  69  96 = 447
9  TGI Racing                   Professor           9  42 150  63  57  69  48 = 438
10 Shogun Autosport             Helix               9  54  66 111  57  69   0 = 366

Tiebreakers:
*  Car  2 finished 4th

------------

V8CFL Round 3 Race 2                              V8CFL Points    Supercar Points

1  Bundaberg Rum Racing         Troy01505         150             708
2  Ecurie SCarGo                stevo qld         138             693
3  Super Seven Racing Aotearoa  formerlyHolden51  129             666
4  Kalyara Racing Team          Kytabu            120             660
5  TAA Performance              Jetpac013         111             651
6  Ain't Care Motorsports       skaifeman         102             627
7  TGI Racing                   Professor          96             606
8  R&K Motorsports              mikeamerica84      90             585
9  The Arrow Motorsport         TheArrow           84             570
10 Shogun Autosport             Helix              78             540


1  Bundaberg Rum Racing         Troy01505         150 138  90 120  33  66 111 = 708
2  Ecurie SCarGo                stevo qld          84 150 102 120  66  60 111 = 693
3  Super Seven Racing Aotearoa  formerlyHolden51  150 138 102 120  33  66  57 = 666
4  Kalyara Racing Team          Kytabu             96 138  69 120  66  60 111 = 660
5  TAA Performance              Jetpac013          96 150  48 120  66  60 111 = 651
6  Ain't Care Motorsports       skaifeman          84 138 102 120  66  60  57 = 627
7  TGI Racing                   Professor          96 138 102 120  33  60  57 = 606
8  R&K Motorsports              mikeamerica84      96 138  48 120  66  60  57 = 585
9  The Arrow Motorsport         TheArrow           96 150  48 120  33  66  57 = 570
10 Shogun Autosport             Helix              96 150  69  90  33  60  42 = 540

Race 1 Results:  http://racing.natsoft.com.au/638822695/object_304148.81n/Result?22
Race 2 Results:  http://racing.natsoft.com.au/638822695/object_304148.81n/Result?33
Stewards Summary:  https://www.camsjac.com/images/VSC/2024/Race7.pdf
#7
Taupo done.  However, I am still awaiting a Stewards Summary from Race 2. 

As for Race 1, all should heed this:  Both the 87 car and the 25 car received 30 point team penalties post Race 1 for pit lane/wheel changing infringements - lost center nut (87 car) and wheel loss (25 car).  These penalties will be recognized by the V8CFL per our rules.

Once the Race 2 Stewards Summary is published we will proceed with the points tally.

https://www.camsjac.com/images/VSC/2024/Race7.pdf

#8
The window for changes prior to the New Zealand round has closed, men.  All rosters are now locked in.  We have had seven teams making roster changes:

Ain't Care Motorsports
Shogun Autosport
Bundaberg Rum Racing
R&K Motorsports
The Arrow Motorsport
Super Seven Racing Aotearoa
Kalyara Racing Team

Good luck to all.  I will see you on the other side of the checkers.

#9
TCR Australia / Re: 2024 TCR Australia Season Chat
April 18, 2024, 09:34:55 PM
Tassie Race 1:  Race only went 1/3 of the distance so no point s awarded yet field for Race 2 set by Race 1 results.

PI:  All races now timed races - not laps. 
#10
Quote from: Kytabu on April 18, 2024, 12:54:50 PMSwap 17 for 1 in Group B please.
Swap complete for Taupo.  You are welcome.  Good luck.
#11
There are about 24 hours left for roster changes prior to the NZ round.  As of right now we have six teams making 12 roster changes.  That has to be a record for one round.

Format for this round is two 60 lap races with qually and Top Ten Shootouts for both.

For everyone making changes this round, please double check me for accuracy on the Approved Teams thread.
#12
Quote from: formerlyHolden51 on April 17, 2024, 03:48:09 PMi too would like to make a few changes for Taupo onwards

Swap25 for 87, 55 for 20 and 7 for 10 with the tie-break rejigged to 4-2-12-96-3

If possible, Chur
You are logged in for NZ.  Good luck.
#13
Pre Taupo bump due to many roster changes.
#14
Supercars will use the full circuit, correct?  I was googling the track.  It kind of reminds me of SMP from a topical view.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taupo_International_Motorsport_Park
#15
Repco Supercars Championship / Re: 2024 Liveries
April 13, 2024, 11:29:59 AM
Quote from: skaifeman on April 11, 2024, 03:09:48 PMThe Grove cars go Kiwi:
Got to say, this and the flat bronze livery they had at the back end of last year have been fantastic.
Agree 100%.