Quote from: Trevor on March 25, 2024, 05:43:26 AMSaturday
1. Chev
2. Chev
3. Ford

Sunday
1. Chev
2. Chev
3. Chev

Ford drivers screwed themselves out of wins at the AGP.


Boring is waiting a month between races. Supercars has to be the laziest high profile racing series in the world.

The website is now mired in google ads and multiple pop ups. That's probably where the revenue is coming from.

You know, there is a 2024 Livery thread. 

Trev's post was made prior to race 5. He's not wrong. We are still waiting on engine testing.

Supercars control what can and can't be done to the engines, they control the testing. Supercars placed a 28 day delay in changes to the ESD. Supercars can't be responsible for a homologation team turning in a substandard product. But they are responsible for working with the homologation teams to reach technical parity. That part they failed to do until late last year. The fuel rail position should have been picked up by Supercars testing when comparing efficiencies of the engines. Instead they just tinkered with shift cut timing. If the homologation teams are free to make changes and still stay with in the technical regulations they yes, the blame totally falls at the feet of of the homologation teams for turn in a substandard package. But that not how it works. Supercar dictate what is allowed and when.

Taking the new regulation from the confidential teams charter is damage control.

 

Cool story.

Quote from: skaifeman on March 20, 2024, 03:16:31 PMSo has there been any further light shed on the Ford donk?
Have they finally lined up their injectors to point the right way?

Bit of an oversight, ay? Shows Supercars was full of "blip" when they said both engines were matched when the Ford donk wasn't anywhere near the AEP limit. Rolly polly also came out and said the Ford had better fuel efficiency.

Quote from: Troy01505 on March 22, 2024, 04:13:02 PM

Quote from: Trevor on March 22, 2024, 04:10:39 PMSo, race results so far

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3. Ford


1. Chev
2. Chev
3. Ford

and they wonder why people are walking away

Interesting you complain now but not when the Mustang debuted miles ahead of the commodores

You are the least qualified person to call others out. Back then you were howling at the moon, claiming a fictional 1 second a lap advantage a lap to the Mustang.     

Leaving or pushed?

Leaving before the real (blip) hits the fans, or pushed for losing drivers and sponsors?

Quote from: Troy01505 on March 02, 2024, 08:34:27 PMWhat a load of crap.

Ford lack top speed yet Richie hit 280 at the speed trap.

Maybe Chaz should not have set his car up to dominate sector 2. He would could have won a race.

Maybe Richie had his car set up for speed on the straights. He would could have won the race.

Quote from: stevo qld on March 01, 2024, 12:46:37 AMHaving identified that the Mustang had performance issues, they should have used their many resources and used the Camaro performance as a baseline and improved the Mustang. It is easy to blame Supercars management instead of taking responsibly for one's own product input.

You continue to leave out a very important part. Supercars withheld Camaros data from DJR until August 2023. Hard to match a target, when the target is hidden. Since the sharing of data, we've seen the cars closer to reach parity.

Quote from: stevo qld on March 01, 2024, 12:46:37 AMRob Herod builds excellent engines, but perhaps lacks the racing performance know-how which Ford could have provided.

I've read, Herrod had several Mostech personnel from the DJRTP days.

https://speedcafe.com/whincup-sick-of-parity-talk/

Perhaps if his side didn't pretend that there wasn't a problem and actively pursued parity last year. Supercars wouldn't be still chasing parity this year.

He said the cars couldn't look any more even. With Supercars hammering home that Supercars is technical and not performance based. Whincup is just whinging and fears a level playing field.

It's shown on the NATSOFT live timing during the race. It doesn't look like the numbers are published after the race.

Good to read, from Mostert anyway, that aero has been improved.

Little disheartening that the timing of the engine testing program is still undefined. Supercars went all out for the wind tunnel. I hope they aren't trying to cheap out by trying to solve the engine disparity without dyno testing. 

Reynolds doing alright. My mistake was thinking the Fords were going to have a chance.

Quote from: djr18fan on February 24, 2024, 09:34:37 AM

Quote from: AlbertM on February 22, 2024, 05:02:27 PMhttps://speedcafe.com/whincup-not-comfortable-with-supercars-engine-parity-situation/

2024's first parity cry. Whincup wants to do away with the parity trigger. The trigger he held to Supercars head to stop Fords aero change for Bathurst.

Laying the blame with Rob Herrod is straight out of line. Supercars dictate the set up of the engines. Herrod just built them.

More on engine parity and who is responsible for engines

https://speedcafe.com/revealed-supercars-parity-contract-with-the-teams/

Another contradiction. Homologation teams are responsible for meeting a target. It didn't help when Supercars hid that target. And Supercars ultimately have the final say. So if the Homologation teams present a technical competitive car it is subject to Supercars time delayed performance based trigger.