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IndyCar / Re: 2022 IndyCar Calendar
« on: January 23, 2022, 09:48:08 AM »
It’s better for Indycar fans in Australia for it to be on Stan than Foxtel. Stan is owned by Channel 9, so it opens up the possibility for some races (eg… Indy 500) to be shown on FTA is ratings work out ok.

Stan is worth getting in 2022. Live Indycar alongside live WRC and live WEC and Le Mans

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GT World Challenge Australia / Re: Bathurst 12 Hour RIP?
« on: January 21, 2022, 03:41:13 PM »
At least two overseas entries are confirmed for the event

1x Gruppe M Mercedes
1x GPX Martini Racing Porsche

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Repco Supercars Championship / Re: Gen 3
« on: January 17, 2022, 09:10:37 AM »
Quote from: djr18fan
"promised so much and delivered so very little"

Compared to 1987….

Perhaps read the threads rather than just look for headlines
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Sorry, I'll quote your whole sentence. "[size=78%]Has there been a year in ATCC/Supercars history that promised so much and delivered so very little?".[/size][/size][size=78%]  Then in your summary you describe it as a disappointing year. I think that's clearly a condemnation of 1988.[/size][size=78%]

All because there were few control parts allowing one car to dominate.
The days of domination by one car and or one team were only great for the fans of that car brand or team.


Bring on Gen 3.

Compared to 1987, where all the comparisons in that thread come from.

Given the grid sizes in 1988, and the following year, domination by one team didn’t seem to scare any competitors or sponsors away.

The rules are so controlled now even the grid size can’t grow

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Repco Supercars Championship / Re: Gen 3
« on: January 16, 2022, 08:47:44 PM »
Quote from: djr18fan
"promised so much and delivered so very little"

Compared to 1987….

Perhaps read the threads rather than just look for headlines

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GT World Challenge Australia / Re: Bathurst 12 Hour RIP?
« on: January 15, 2022, 10:42:06 PM »
Surely, there are a lot of local cars now, with some having older spare cars that could be leased.

If numbers are down, just add another class such as superseded Porsches.

Maybe it is too expensive for additional, mostly amateur, entrants?

The last five years have seen the organisers prioritise the overseas GT3 entries, and the depth of international cars coming over had effectively scared off a lot of the local “gentlemen” entries, who amongst others things have been put off by the crash & bash sprint race it’s become. The damage bill in the last few years has been astonishing.

SRO has said they will likely move to clashing GTWC Europe Sprint event to a new weekend….. an advantage to that being it frees up Valentino Rossi to compete.

Factories can easily ship customer cars here for the likes of MPC or T8 to run, or for teams like WRT to fly in to run them, teams shipping their own regular equipment over will be hard/impossible with this date though.

Drivers shouldn’t be an issue as it stands now, unless border entries change again

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Repco Supercars Championship / Re: Gen 3
« on: January 15, 2022, 10:34:20 PM »

The beauty of Gen 3 is that there are only two designs of Supercar, with mostly common parts and the differences, such as the body, subject to extensive parity type adjustments, prior to manufacture

There is no “beauty” in such a restrictive rule set

I prefer that to avoid another 1988 ATCC.

1988, a year where every round bar one featured more than the current grid of 25 cars, Bathurst had close to 50 ….. more than two manufacturers too

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Repco Supercars Championship / Re: Gen 3
« on: January 14, 2022, 05:03:46 PM »

The beauty of Gen 3 is that there are only two designs of Supercar, with mostly common parts and the differences, such as the body, subject to extensive parity type adjustments, prior to manufacture

There is no “beauty” in such a restrictive rule set

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Repco Supercars Championship / Re: 2020 Supercars Championship
« on: January 14, 2022, 05:01:43 PM »
The 2020 and earlier Supercar Championships have cease to exist on the Supercars Website, and have since late last year, at least.

I wonder if that is the new owners scrapping history or, more likely, a technical snafu?

https://www.supercars.com/championship/2020-virgin-australia-supercars-championship-points/

They should scrap any pre-1997 history off the site certainly

If they choose to start from scratch in 2022 though, nothing wrong with that either, Supercars as an organisation have treated “history” with a grain of salt for 25 years

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Repco Supercars Championship / Re: Covid’s affect on 2022
« on: January 12, 2022, 09:19:59 AM »
Yet SRO does organise race meetings. He hires people in plenty of countries to run SRO controlled events, why would it be any different in Australia?

I see RACE jettisoning the 6hr or the International before they canned the 12hr.

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Repco Supercars Championship / Re: Covid’s affect on 2022
« on: January 11, 2022, 10:18:13 PM »
Quote from: Alan59
The GT Championship is a funded by competitors support race on a multi category program.There is no comparison with the cost of running the 12 Hour which  has a significant overseas entry and is very expensive to run.

It shows that RACE have an interest in GT racing given they control both the 12hr and the GT Championship, with SRO having an interest in both.

Quote from: Alan59
Stefan Ratel organises entrant groups and provides fields to promoters for a fee.He does not run meetings himself.Bathurst Council aren’t going to take an entrepreneurial risk themselves and I don’t think they have been able to find another partner.
It is telling that communications to existing camp site holders have come from Bathurst Council not Supercars.And no they have not offered renewals.
The 12 Hour would be in the top 3-4 events that Supercars promote.It is not credible that they didn’t give it a lot of thought even before the new owners put in their bid.

Completely incorrect.

Ratel’s company promotes many championships, not least of which the GT World Challenge Europe (formerly Blancpain) and the Endurance Series, coupled with the French GT Series and the British GT Championship that he has controlled since 2004, not to mention the Pirelli World Challenge in America too, and GT Asia.
Ratel running championship’s stretches back to the 1997 FIA GT Championship.

Running the Bathurst 12hr is probably his preferred option, the 12hr is the only IGTC event his company doesn’t have direct control over.

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Repco Supercars Championship / Re: Covid’s affect on 2022
« on: January 11, 2022, 06:46:34 PM »
The new Supercars owners also co-promote the Australian GT Championship, along with SRO.

Even if the new Supercars owners DID want out of the 12 hour, the event is half owned by the Bathurst Regional Council who I’m sure want the event to continue, and I’m sure SRO would happily step in to Supercars place to promote the event too, given its a prominent IGTC round. Punters might have to get used to no more Radio Le Mans commentary though…

Having said that, I’ve no doubt the new Supercars owners are thinking about Newcastle primarily right now and not giving the 12hr much thought…..let alone TCR and S5000 who have their first rounds scheduled before both of those other events

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Repco Supercars Championship / Re: Gen 3
« on: December 24, 2021, 05:24:49 AM »
A major advantage of Gen 3 is the standardised front end componentry.

It is something that should have been done with the previous major change, but some of the teams wanted to keep their own developed design.

The result has been a years long race to upgrade at a significant cost in money and time. It was not always successful.

Here is one case in point:

Quote
“For us at Bathurst, it was the best chassis that I have ever had there, the car was a rocketship.”

Besides Woodward’s hard work, Hazelwood said a mid-season test had been useful in rediscovering his one-lap pace and also revealed a crucial part change that was made.

I actually reverted back to an older spec part in the front of the car to try to help me get some feel back in the car,” he said.

https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/12/23/reverting-to-old-part-helped-turn-hazelwoods-2021-around/

Standardising more parts is never an “advantage” of regulations

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Repco Supercars Championship / Re: wtf is up with only 26 cars?
« on: December 14, 2021, 07:19:33 PM »
. Extra underfunded entrants coming and going  don't help build fan loyalty. Could well harm the categories reputation.

My god, how ever did the series survive for so many decades without franchises and guaranteed incomes.

Funnily enough the privateers coming and going built the fan loyalty that the series has lived off since 1997!

It struggled.

Every promo for the series these days harks back to the 60s and 70s, the Gen3 cars were released with old cars in the background, they say the Ford v Holden rivalry was forged in the 60s and 70s….

Yet now you’re saying it struggled. Right….

Yes it struggled, it’s the bones of where we came from but in the “old glory day” apart from the top few teams everyone else either full time businesses or had full time employment outside of the sport, these days they are making money and almost all teams have a full time staff member for almost every role in the team. Series and teams are in the best financial position they have ever been.

You’ve gone off on a completely irrelevant pathway.

The poster said that non full-time entrants would harm fan loyalty and the categories reputation.

The poster forgets that the fan loyalty enjoyed today was BUILT by the part time privateers, and the category lives off the reputation built by the ATCC at a time when there were plenty of part-time entrants. Just watch a modern day telecast, they slender half the time trying to link everything back to the 70s and 89s….

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Repco Supercars Championship / Re: wtf is up with only 26 cars?
« on: December 14, 2021, 11:56:51 AM »
. Extra underfunded entrants coming and going  don't help build fan loyalty. Could well harm the categories reputation.

My god, how ever did the series survive for so many decades without franchises and guaranteed incomes.

Funnily enough the privateers coming and going built the fan loyalty that the series has lived off since 1997!

It struggled.

Every promo for the series these days harks back to the 60s and 70s, the Gen3 cars were released with old cars in the background, they say the Ford v Holden rivalry was forged in the 60s and 70s….

Yet now you’re saying it struggled. Right….

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Repco Supercars Championship / Re: wtf is up with only 26 cars?
« on: December 14, 2021, 09:16:22 AM »
. Extra underfunded entrants coming and going  don't help build fan loyalty. Could well harm the categories reputation.

My god, how ever did the series survive for so many decades without franchises and guaranteed incomes.

Funnily enough the privateers coming and going built the fan loyalty that the series has lived off since 1997!

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