The Greens/Labor coalition in the ACT is just a taste of what will happen across the whole country! As usual this won't effect the rich elitists it's normal working people who will suffer.

https://www.news.com.au/technology/motoring/on-the-road/serious-concerns-over-plan-to-ban-new-petrol-cars-by-2035-in-the-act/news-story/fd8fc53a67e2588b886fb0a77f2ea04b

Quote from: Trevor on April 17, 2022, 05:07:56 AM

Quote from: coyote302 on April 16, 2022, 06:29:25 PM
Instead of the personal attacks how about you try using facts to argue you point of view?

you mean like you and he did? 

Ok show me where I used a personal attack?

Quote from: Trevor on April 15, 2022, 08:04:58 PM
So being a centralist means you don't take in wide view points to form a bigger picture - cool

Instead of the personal attacks how about you try using facts to argue you point of view?

Some good news

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/government-pledges-5-4bn-for-north-queensland-dam-before-business-case/ar-AAVogd3?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531

Quote from: Alan59 on March 20, 2022, 11:33:34 AM

What you have a choice of is 2 parties with most policies in common except 1 of them blatantly increases income and wealth inequality ,refuses to have their actions scrutinised by an effective anti corruption body and acts always in the interests of its fossil fuel benefactors rather than the people who elect them.

you know what they say, opinions are like arseholes, everyone has them and some of them stink. We will soon find out which way Australians want to head.

Quote from: Ospif1 on March 20, 2022, 08:57:01 AM

Quote from: the undertaker on March 20, 2022, 08:08:32 AM
As an outsider with an interest in politics, and watching from a country that has been decimated by an ideological moron as prime minister, it's unbelievable that Australia think that Albanese and his left wing cohorts are the answer to Australia's problems!

I have skin in the game in that both my adult children live in Australia and I am concerned at the socialist direction Australia will head under this left wing labor party.

Let the mud slinging begin, I can handle the coming abuse!

I'm unconcerned about socialist direction.

Have a read of this

https://reason.com/2021/02/10/socialism-doesnt-work/

And this

https://medium.com/age-of-awareness/about-that-teacher-who-failed-their-whole-class-14a704cb76d8

Quote from: Alan59 on March 19, 2022, 05:14:55 PM

Quote from: coyote302 on March 19, 2022, 04:21:14 PM

Quote from: Trevor on March 19, 2022, 02:28:32 PM

Quote from: coyote302 on March 19, 2022, 01:49:51 PM
So you're saying bullying is ok? Wow, if this was the LNP you lot would be screamimg blue murder!

You need to watch Ms Represented on the ABC if you want to see how grubby Lib females can get.  I actually sort of gained some respect for Bronwyn Bishop after watching it

https://iview.abc.net.au/show/ms-represented-with-annabel-crabb

Nice try at a redirection.

Here's another claim

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-24/labor-mp-kaushaliya-vaghela-says-premier-office-ignored-bullying/100854794

We get it.Championing your climate change denying,anti corruption blocking,wealth and income gap widening heroes is getting hard for most people.
But wait.Look over there!

So instead of putting across a fact based argument you resort to a personal attack. Well done mate.

Quote from: Trevor on March 19, 2022, 02:28:32 PM

Quote from: coyote302 on March 19, 2022, 01:49:51 PM
So you're saying bullying is ok? Wow, if this was the LNP you lot would be screamimg blue murder!

You need to watch Ms Represented on the ABC if you want to see how grubby Lib females can get.  I actually sort of gained some respect for Bronwyn Bishop after watching it

https://iview.abc.net.au/show/ms-represented-with-annabel-crabb

Nice try at a redirection.

Here's another claim

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-24/labor-mp-kaushaliya-vaghela-says-premier-office-ignored-bullying/100854794

Quote from: Alan59 on March 19, 2022, 12:11:37 PM

Quote from: coyote302 on March 19, 2022, 09:50:13 AM
An interesting read, although the usual suspects will dismiss it.

https://www.news.com.au/national/politics/joe-hildebrand-i-was-angry-and-i-stand-by-all-of-it/news-story/94e8f310b0a135abcf2bd790f856e819

I stopped at "socialist sounding dogma" and "woke virtue signalling".Reading Hildebrand channel Morrison via Rupert was too much.
What happened to Kitching is a personal tragedy.However she was a hard headed political operative and her card was marked from the time she went behind her party's back to leak party stuff to Linda Reynolds.From then on it is no wonder much of the Labor Party felt they could no longer trust her.

So you're saying bullying is ok? Wow, if this was the LNP you lot would be screamimg blue murder!

An interesting read, although the usual suspects will dismiss it.

https://www.news.com.au/national/politics/joe-hildebrand-i-was-angry-and-i-stand-by-all-of-it/news-story/94e8f310b0a135abcf2bd790f856e819

Quote from: Trevor on March 09, 2022, 05:50:09 AM

Quote from: coyote302 on March 08, 2022, 09:43:00 PM
Again, calm down, I will address your questions, again

Labor Greens alliance, in 2010 Labor formed an alliance with the Greens to secure their one and only seat in the house of reps

That covers proof of previous Labor Greens alliances

I never ever denied that Labor used Adam Bandt in the Lower House, the same as Abbott would have had he been able to sway all 4 people needed to run Government - jesus I said as much 3 times above - but they used ONE Green, not the whole Party - you lot carry on as if it is a bad thing.

Tell me who many times have the Libs got into bed with the Greens in the Lower House this term, and how many time have the Libs got into bed with the Greens in the Upper House in the last 10 plus years?  Please research that

Quote from: coyote302 on March 08, 2022, 09:43:00 PMAnd now to address these gems

In case you missed it Australia has been a socialist country for 60 or 70 years.  Lets talk about Howard and all the socialist policies he introduced to get the middle class vote that he needed to keep in power
1. Baby bonus
2. Subsidised child care for middle income earners
3. Gun laws

just to name 3

You have taken your fair share of Socialist Government handouts in your time
1. PBS on your medicines
2. Medicare to pay your doctors bills and to give you free hospital care
3. Subsidised child care
4. Employer provided Superannuation contributions
5. Hell I reckon you even spent the $500 hat Kevin 07 gave you, I doubt you sent it back

I could go on, but hopefully you get my point, I doubt it, but hopefully



The above points are not pure socialist, if they were there would be no private health and the government would run all childcare. I could go on, but hopefully you get my point, I doubt it, but hopefully.


Australia is not socialist, it is a Liberal Democracy. See below for explanations if you are confused

https://australianpolitics.com/democracy/key-terms/liberal-democracy

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism


Hope this clears things up

what you are quoting is Communism, not Socialism, get your facts rights

For the third time I will post this link. This is the definition of Socialism, what is in this link is factual.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism

Quote from: Trevor on March 08, 2022, 10:58:29 AM

Quote from: coyote302 on March 08, 2022, 09:57:24 AM
geez calm down mate, we have drifted from the Communism is the extreme form of Socialism statement.

Seems like you need a reminder: take a chill pill and read this

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism

Don't come that "calm down mate" **** with me, you ****ing throw hand-grenades and then go missing with answers to my questions.  You, like all the others before you cannot refute what I have posted so you continually divert away

I am wasting my energy responding to you because you have nothing, zip, zero, ****-all

Again, calm down, I will address your questions, again

Labor Greens alliance, in 2010 Labor formed an alliance with the Greens to secure their one and only seat in the house of reps

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2010-09-01/greens-labor-seal-deal/966044

https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/6978568/a-coalition-is-the-best-option-for-labor-and-the-greens/

That covers proof of previous Labor Greens alliances

And now to address these gems

In case you missed it Australia has been a socialist country for 60 or 70 years.  Lets talk about Howard and all the socialist policies he introduced to get the middle class vote that he needed to keep in power
1. Baby bonus
2. Subsidised child care for middle income earners
3. Gun laws

just to name 3

You have taken your fair share of Socialist Government handouts in your time
1. PBS on your medicines
2. Medicare to pay your doctors bills and to give you free hospital care
3. Subsidised child care
4. Employer provided Superannuation contributions
5. Hell I reckon you even spent the $500 hat Kevin 07 gave you, I doubt you sent it back

I could go on, but hopefully you get my point, I doubt it, but hopefully



The above points are not pure socialist, if they were there would be no private health and the government would run all childcare. I could go on, but hopefully you get my point, I doubt it, but hopefully.


Australia is not socialist, it is a Liberal Democracy. See below for explanations if you are confused

https://australianpolitics.com/democracy/key-terms/liberal-democracy

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism


Hope this clears things up
 

Quote from: Trevor on March 08, 2022, 09:44:55 AM

Quote from: coyote302 on March 08, 2022, 09:16:17 AM
Looks like my response triggered you Obviously what I said must be on the ball as all you could come back with was "what a crock of ****" and a poor attempt at a personal attack.  Not that it's any of your business but, I work hard and pay my fair share of tax. I am in a group of people who get no handouts from the Government.

I get sick of idiots like you who move around facts then trot out some non-related rubbish

In case you missed it Australia has been a socialist country for 60 or 70 years.  Lets talk about Howard and all the socialist policies he introduced to get the middle class vote that he needed to keep in power
1. Baby bonus
2. Subsidised child care for middle income earners
3. Gun laws

just to name 3

geez calm down mate, we have drifted from the Communism is the extreme form of Socialism statement.

Seems like you need a reminder: take a chill pill and read this

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism 

Quote from: Trevor on March 07, 2022, 03:18:04 AM

Quote from: coyote302 on March 06, 2022, 02:15:21 PM
Communisum is the extreme form of Socialism, for either to work personal freedoms must be removed or eroded

what a crock of **** - did you vote for Donald Trump too

Amazingly we have had Labor Government State and Federal and you are living off their policies every day - If you hate them that much stop using Medicare, introduced by a Socialist Government.  Stop sponging on the taxpayer you Capitalist and start paying your own way

Looks like my response triggered you Obviously what I said must be on the ball as all you could come back with was "what a crock of ****" and a poor attempt at a personal attack.  Not that it's any of your business but, I work hard and pay my fair share of tax. I am in a group of people who get no handouts from the Government.