Quote from: Trevor on March 22, 2024, 04:10:39 PMSo, race results so far

1. Chev
2. Chev
3. Ford


1. Chev
2. Chev
3. Ford

and they wonder why people are walking away

Races for today and tomorrow have Ford 1-3 on the grid! Tune in!

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I spoke way too soon. Mostert nowhere off the line, and the other two were sure to take each other out.
Genuine shame, both those guys were hot.

Regardless, Payne has announced himself as a consistent challenger this weekend.
All from a team that was mid pack at best pre Gen3 - who would've thought.

Quote from: AlbertM on March 23, 2024, 04:17:20 AM

Quote from: skaifeman on March 20, 2024, 03:16:31 PMSo has there been any further light shed on the Ford donk?
Have they finally lined up their injectors to point the right way?

Bit of an oversight, ay? Shows Supercars was full of "blip" when they said both engines were matched when the Ford donk wasn't anywhere near the AEP limit. Rolly polly also came out and said the Ford had better fuel efficiency.

Big time oversight by Herrod. Embarrassing to be honest.

Even building our own stuff, there's a locating slot in the injector to meet and mate with the fuel rail to ensure that it's angled and facing the chamber. We check that whenever we open it up, although in this case very hard to get wrong.
Obviously the Coyote uses a 4 valve head, therefore dual spray and even more important to have them indexed correctly. They're using an aftermarket setup that clearly doesn't have these indexing slots. But god oh why is someone just slapping them in there whatever which way?
Washing the bore is not good, it'll remove the oil film that the rings slide on and seal to and with the fuel also not directly hitting the hot piston it won't atomise as effectively.

It's clear the comments from Story, Whincup and Walkinshaw (via Instagram) point to the fact (ala DJR's V8 Sleuth article) that the direction and management of the Coyote engine was far from great. They were essentially maximising an underperforming engine to sit within the AEP window.
Even going back to Waters fire at Darwin, that 90deg connection for the fuel setup that was blamed looked very backyard engineering. A little like when you're trackside and have to ask a few others for parts and make it work to just finish the day.
Surprised some aren't asking more questions about the quality of the winning tenderer that I'm sure has been charging a pretty penny. I know plenty have questioned underperforming parts previously.

I now understand Supercars new regulation, they can't be blamed for the incorrect installation or build quality of the engines, they can only measure their performance. Although I stand by that the tools of measurement need to be improved.
There's a reason that everyone has been hush hush about it, compared to last year when all fingers were clearly pointed at Supercars.

It's such a high grip circuit. The cars are so loaded that when a anyone makes a minor error (ala Feeney) and loses that grip you miss the corner by a mile.

Zak Brown just suggested he'd love to goto Newcastle to watch the Supercars... guess he'll be waiting a while.
Jess Yates didn't even correct him. Annoys me when interviewers don't do that, to save the interviewee any embarrassment. I'd argue that they're there to inform the viewer, not appease whoever is getting interviewed.

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Quali 3:
88 - Chev
11 - Ford
25 - Ford
87 - Chev
19 - Ford
10 - Chev
6 - Ford
26 - Ford
14 - Chev
99 - Chev

Advantage Ford. Suggest aero and engine are bang on around here. Certainly no mid/top end difference.
Taupo should fill us in for the slow speed off the corner stuff - which is where the issue has been said to lie.

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Quali 4:
6 - Ford
87 - Chev
88 - Chev
18 - Chev
19 - Ford
11 - Ford
9 - Chev
17 - Ford
25 - Ford
26 - Ford

Jones continues their Pizza Hut/cartoon relationship:

https://speedcafe.com/spongebob-squarepants-livery-for-bjr-supercar/

So has there been any further light shed on the Ford donk?
Have they finally lined up their injectors to point the right way?

Quote from: lanky1 on March 14, 2024, 11:56:32 AMLove how they have the correct headlights, it is probably only a sticker, but even the chev teams have the original car look lights. Even the ZB had the correct lights, Ford teams have had one bulb ever since FB-X,

Agree Lanky. The homologated light (F and R) should represent the road going version.
From memory there was a drama on the FGX rear lights, as they struggled to source them? And had to move to a newly fabricated one, which caused a hoorah in pitlane in reference to the tech regs of the time. Even the headlight was somewhat integrated into the front bar(?) of the FGX.

My point is, it can be done, a fabricated lightweight housing with the correct LED's/bulbs to represent the road cars.
Even the tail lights remaining illuminated on the Mustang just looks great.

Quote from: Trevor on March 20, 2024, 05:02:17 AMso the F1 bosses are waking up to Supercars hahahahahaha

and @LG, there should be no surprise in that

For years and years Supercars has raped and pillaged their way across Australia and beyond, now it is their turn to be screwed

Screwed by the bigger fish. F1 do the same, this is no different, but that's the show everyone goes to see.

Turned around to a profit, waiting on interest and taxes:
https://speedcafe.com/supercars-in-financial-turnaround/

Considering the 2023 season, there's certainly room for improvement.

Interestingly, corporate hospitality grew and I'd suggest will continue to with the newly bought in shareholder:
https://speedcafe.com/rogers-sell-supercars-stake-to-overseas-investor/

It references the Supercars website as to a potential increase in revenue, which is an absolute dumpster fire. Never been harder to navigate and requires way too much scrolling for the information at hand. The app isn't much different.

Great looking Ford Performance scheme for the Adelaide Motorsport Festival.


https://www.supercars.com/news/third-blanchard-gen3-mustang-breaks-cover

Sleuth suggests she'll take a hiatus from Motorsport, and unrelated to the Kostecki drama:
https://www.v8sleuth.com.au/erebus-confirms-resignation-of-managing-director/

Either way, Barry can't say that everyone behind the garage doors are still the same, now.

Quote from: Yamarocket630 on February 28, 2024, 11:50:33 AMI was pretty unhappy with the end of race 1. I think a local caution to allow the race to actually be a race to the end would have been much better.

Double waved would've easily done the job. It's one line through there at the best of times, and Love was off it.

It was pretty clear Chaz had the high aero setup by the monster numbers he was pulling across the top - it was enthralling to watch.
Not an uncommon approach, we've seen Penske and Scotty Mac use it a few times in the past. Larko's segment pretty well detailed this and was well done.

I watched Natsoft for a while and below is a clipping, speed shown second column from the end.


Firstly it's worth mentioning that the speed trap isn't where terminal speed is being achieved, so it's likely that 1-2km/h could be 3-4-5km/h at the kink.
It's pretty clear the draft helps, anyone at around 280 was more times than not behind someone.
We could do a mean/median/mode to break it down (for that particular lap), but a rough eye would suggest that the Camaro is just that bee's dick 1,
maybe 2km/h quicker to this point.

It's pretty close. And looking better almost immediately: https://speedcafe.com/further-ford-engine-details-come-to-light/
Supercars timeline of the transient dyno can't come soon enough.

To re-iterate my first sentence, it's clear that Chaz is the outlier here - and was so consistently throughout the race.

Quote from: Brazen on February 25, 2024, 06:47:14 PMUpdated live pitlane order has DJR second last!

Also worth noting that WAU end up 3rd last due to Wood's enormous bad luck

My first thought was "Young bloke, cold tyres, f****** up," as Larry would put it.
Both times and was completely unlucky and on the receiving end. His pace is a big thumbs up though.

Quote from: Alan59 on February 25, 2024, 08:47:29 PM

Quote from: Trevor on February 25, 2024, 05:51:34 AMAre there any spectators there?

I went up for Sunday only.Crowd looked pretty similar to the 2021 opener at Bathurst.

The 500 is a tough one to sell. Everyone knows and plans for the 1000, time off work etc.

The Waters choice seems disastrous.