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Quote from: AlbertM on March 29, 2023, 10:32:31 PM
https://www.v8sleuth.com.au/gen3-supercars-to-undergo-centre-of-gravity-parity-test/

why is this being done NOW surely this could have been done before?

Given the process doesn't require any track testing, there's no reason why it shouldn't of been.

The process involves testing multiple cars from multiple teams.

The cars simply did not exist in this quantity, with all cooling systems (in correct places) and other ancillaries, before Newcastle and Teams needed the time since then to work on the cars.

That's a fair statement given their predicament, however it easily could've been done at some stage within the 3 years leading to it's first event.
Did they not have 2 test mules, with the bare 'must have' components fixed (the answer is no, but they should've).

Unsure why multiple teams need to be tested - for example, the COG (assuming everything else was identical between another Chev) of the 888 car would've been worse in R1 at Newcastle due to their driver cooling system sitting on the edge of the car.
The bare race cars need to be identical at a (theoretical) minimum weight - which they had the chance to do with the test mules. All the bolt on's within that is up to the team to achieve the minimum weight, no?

SVG with a major moment in P1, nudging the walls with both front and rear.
Listen to him on and off the throttle as he tries to spin away from the wall. Not sure if it helped, the second rotation seemed much faster than the first.

Good to see the cars getting out of shape at what was previously flat out corners. Update: He actually put a wheel in the grass.

Quote from: fordman on March 30, 2023, 08:08:22 AM

Quote from: AlbertM on March 29, 2023, 10:32:31 PM
https://www.v8sleuth.com.au/gen3-supercars-to-undergo-centre-of-gravity-parity-test/

why is this being done NOW surely this could have been done before?

Given the process doesn't require any track testing, there's no reason why it shouldn't of been.

To be frank, Supercars will let whatever body shell in if a team/manufacturer wants to homologate it.

Quote from: murph_fan51 on March 25, 2023, 02:12:30 PM

Quote from: Bloopy on March 25, 2023, 02:07:08 PM
Shane's 10th now so I guess you just mean after race 1. 2004 looks like the last time it happened, with Steven Johnson climbing to 10th during the year after a crappy Adelaide.

Supercars website show SVG in 11th (but equal in points with Pye so 10th equal?).

But yes thought it would have been many many years ago.

Supercars fail. Shane would be higher on count back, given his R2 win.

Quote from: AlbertM on March 24, 2023, 08:35:37 PM

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Gen 3 Camaro only exists because Supercars knows there are still enough GM suckers to get behind it and pour money into the spectacle.

which model should they have run?

Not model, but what make is the question Supercars should have focused on. Gen 3 could have opened the door for other brands. But instead stuck with dead GM models in an effort to keep the Holden fans on side and keep Holden v Ford marketing legacy alive. A legacy supercars said they have moved passed.

They have been trying for years to get other manufacturers interested with limited and short lived success.
They have gone down this path because they are the only ones willing to play.

They would/should have known at the beginning of the process the lifespan of the Camaro and this generation of racing

Given how Supercars botched Gen 2 by favoring one make, no one would be willing to play.  A few years back BMW wanted to play but only if they could bring their existing race cars. Supercars have since done 2 ground up generation of race cars. Supercars could have worked with BMW but they didn't. 

Gen 3 now has a 3 season life span. All that development for just 3 seasons. So much for reducing costs.

Not sure how true it is but it is said that GM does not want much to do with Gen 3 and that Supercars bought Camaro's IP from GM so it could be raced. If true Supercar want to prolong the ol' GM v Ford thing for a bit longer.

My understanding was that covid killed the BMW deal?

Quote from: Sonic on March 23, 2023, 02:07:30 PM

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Quote from: skaifeman on March 07, 2023, 12:18:24 PM
Biante are re-releasing the 2020 Bathurst winner. Classic did the last version, fully sealed and not great.
After receiving my Biante WAU winner, I don't think I'd be rushing for the 2020 upgrade, especially at the price point.

And now the 2015 Winner too. Biante trying to grab fresh sales because the Classic's were so poor.

Quote from: Sonic on March 07, 2023, 01:59:18 PM
Really don't get the low numbers that they make available.

Sure it's good for collectors I guess who speculate that the investment may increase but it stumps sales when they are in demand.

Most of the popular ones are released in droves. The 2020 Bathurst Winner had almost 7,000 - driving second hand prices down to around $100 at times.
Anything Brock that gets released has numbers of around 10,000.

Try to get a 2010 Bathurst Coulthard car I wanted one to go with my pics... asking prices have been around the $2000 mark for a 1:18

Have you thought about contacting the company and telling them the story? You never know your luck.

Couldn't hurt to sob on their shoulder I guess. Worst they can do is say 'tough luck'...

Does anyone know who made the model for that year?

Biante.

Likely that some teams stay on with the Camaro for a year or two (it's already irrelevant, so what's the difference) ala the ZB/FGX.

Quote from: Sonic on March 23, 2023, 01:14:08 PM

Quote from: skaifeman on March 23, 2023, 09:31:29 AM

Quote from: skaifeman on March 07, 2023, 12:18:24 PM
Biante are re-releasing the 2020 Bathurst winner. Classic did the last version, fully sealed and not great.
After receiving my Biante WAU winner, I don't think I'd be rushing for the 2020 upgrade, especially at the price point.

And now the 2015 Winner too. Biante trying to grab fresh sales because the Classic's were so poor.

Quote from: Sonic on March 07, 2023, 01:59:18 PM
Really don't get the low numbers that they make available.

Sure it's good for collectors I guess who speculate that the investment may increase but it stumps sales when they are in demand.

Most of the popular ones are released in droves. The 2020 Bathurst Winner had almost 7,000 - driving second hand prices down to around $100 at times.
Anything Brock that gets released has numbers of around 10,000.

Try to get a 2010 Bathurst Coulthard car I wanted one to go with my pics... asking prices have been around the $2000 mark for a 1:18

There's always oddity's and that's definitely one of them! Even the 1:64's demand coin.

Same as the 2017 Bathurst winner, it was the first time Authentic Collectables did a Bathurst Winner and essentially didn't have the platform/advertising to let people know! Only produced 2,200.
They essentially released another version, looking as per the car finished, to bulk up the numbers.

Quote from: skaifeman on March 07, 2023, 12:18:24 PM
Biante are re-releasing the 2020 Bathurst winner. Classic did the last version, fully sealed and not great.
After receiving my Biante WAU winner, I don't think I'd be rushing for the 2020 upgrade, especially at the price point.

And now the 2015 Winner too. Biante trying to grab fresh sales because the Classic's were so poor.

Quote from: Sonic on March 07, 2023, 01:59:18 PM
Really don't get the low numbers that they make available.

Sure it's good for collectors I guess who speculate that the investment may increase but it stumps sales when they are in demand.

Most of the popular ones are released in droves. The 2020 Bathurst Winner had almost 7,000 - driving second hand prices down to around $100 at times.
Anything Brock that gets released has numbers of around 10,000.

Quote from: stevo qld on March 22, 2023, 11:34:52 PM
Certainly, as with other teams, such as Erebus, they will demand any statement from Adrian be in writing.

It's as simple as that, as with any job really.

Not sure why you'd be questioning the pedigree of someone with an achievement list as long as his.

One does wonder if they ever would've picked up on it in parc ferme had Tickford/WAU not made their appeal.
Was the protest made before the parc ferme was finished?

Quote from: Joe5619 on March 12, 2023, 08:54:57 PM
His move on Chaz was 50/50.. No need to penalty, let them race..

Such a shame about Cam, would have made the ending even better!!

What is going on at DJR?

And are we watching the end of Percat's fulltime career?

Basically my comments for the weekend.
There was overlap in the move that both drivers could've avoided - cheeky from SVG, which we know he does. Chaz isn't one to shy away from contact either, dare say a return serve will come at some point.

DJR have typically gone well at the AGP and Perth, so I think they'll settle in to their natural position by then. It's odd that a homologation team is on the back foot so early, compared to previous results in history.

If Percat doesn't produce results this year I'd say his full-time aspirations are done! No doubt the team is built around Chaz, but I can't see another team grabbing him if he can't produce in what has been a recent Bathurst winning and race winning team. What a backfire so far for WAU, it was my understanding they moved heaven and earth to get Percat there.

Parity seems good so far. What's more interesting is the lack of depth in the Chev teams. If 97 isn't winning, who is? Ford have 3 gun teams (Tickford, WAU and DJR) with Grove nipping at their heels. Chev only 888 and potentially Erebus? No one else looks to be able to pick up the slack, if there's any.

Rules are rules regardless of its performance gain. Fair play.

888 claiming they sought permission, and it was granted prior to Race 1. There'll be a little more to this.