What do the support categories sponsors get out of races on Wednesday and Thursday?

Quote from: CP on October 17, 2021, 10:38:49 AM

Quote from: fordman on October 17, 2021, 07:03:31 AM
10k at the races in Sydney, no reason same plus more at Bathurst

Funny how freedom day coincided with the lead up to The Everest.

The Everest always had an exemption for 80% freedoms even if the vax rate wasn't at 70%, the same was going to apply if the NRL GF got moved back to Sydney after the Brisbane outbreak scare (NSW offered to host it on this night tonight)

Supercars have happily trampled on 'tradition' in every way possible with their version of the 1000, extending it to a longer distance has no barrier of tradition infront of it.

They won't get rid of the minimum stops because they don't want drivers saving fuel. 7 stops minimum reduces the need for saving fuel so drivers will supposedly attack.

Makes it less of a traditional endurance race, but Supercars have never cared about that barrier.

Looks like few of the stars will be doing double duty at the 6 day Bathurst

Understandable , but it's taking the edge off all the categories being together if the front runners from other categories aren't going to be competing to save themselves for the 1000

Quote from: SetonFan on September 25, 2021, 05:47:46 PM

It's embarrassing that NSW only has these two circuits to fill the gap.

Blame Supercars and the Iemma NSW Labour government for that. There was an Oran park replacement set to go, land acquired and willingness there, but they wanted some government help but the funding went to the Homebush street race instead....

The only thing stopping Supercars racing at Wakefield is the ridiculous ego of the Supercars organisation.

Quote from: stevo qld on September 13, 2021, 01:34:22 PM
I tried to find a reference but it was a long time ago. From memory it was an el-cheapo deal by Tom Walkinshaw, but here is a later version by Craig.

If he does S5000, we can be sere it will be suitably funded.

QuoteCraig Lowndes has unleashed a rare tirade on his former nemesis Juan Pablo Montoya in a recently published book celebrating 10 years of Triple Eight Race Engineering.

In a section devoted to the Brisbane squad's longest serving driver, Lowndes reflected on his stint as team-mate to Montoya in Dr Helmet Marko's Formula 3000 team in 1997.

A year after winning the first of his five Bathurst 1000 titles and three Australian Touring Car Championships, Lowndes embarked on a path he hoped would see him earn a Formula 1 seat in Europe.

The drive was set-up by Holden Racing Team owner Tom Walkinshaw, who at that point owned the Arrows F1 team and had Lowndes on a 10-year contract, and backed by Holden, HSV and Mobil.

It soon become evident during the season that Lowndes, who had moved into a small flat owned by the now Red Bull talent scout Marko, was not happy in a foreign environment with the confronting Montoya.

The Colombian had risen rapidly through British Formula Vauxhall and Formula 3 in the two preceding years, where he gained a reputation for being supremely quick but difficult to deal with.

"Montoya would be the only driver that ever got to me mentally," Lowndes revealed in the book, written by Paul Gover.

"I don't think he (Montoya) worked a day in his life.

"His parents were lovely people, but they funded him all the way through.

"I was in a foreign country, a foreign team, and I didn't have the support around me that I had in Australia.

https://www.speedcafe.com/2014/07/31/lowndes-montoya-arrogance-prepared-skaife/

Although it may have been a trying experience, it would better prepare him for a drive in S5000.

I'm not sure how a drive in the best team in the field at the time can be classed as el-cheapo? He had a full budget through TWR and Holden.

Lowndes got caned by Montoya, purely and simply.

Poorly backed car? It was the reigning champion team, and he had a full budget courtesy of TWR and Holden.

Be great to see him have a go in S5000 though

I find it hard to believe a Supercheap sponsored event would combine with a Repco sponsored event

Why would they cheapen the 1000 by combining it with an as yet non-existent event? And how would Supercheap like supporting a support race for a Repco sponsored 1000?

Quote from: CP does the race have to be in physical, real life form?

Interesting idea, one that I doubt has been thought of, but perhaps an option.

Not just Cochrane but Warburton has a share of the 5% too IIRC

Quote from: Joe5619 on August 29, 2021, 10:34:20 AM
I don't get the whole "we need to buy the teams out to gain complete control" talk. If you buy 65% of any business you have complete control to do whatever you want, the 35% can't do jack!

It appears that although they teams only have 35%, they have a lot of rights built in to that 35%, including seemingly the power to veto any deal done for the 65% Archer share.

Has there been a year in ATCC/Supercars history that promised so much and delivered so very little? Off the back of the most exciting series in a long time in 1987 we had the prospects of:

- Glenn Seton, a year older and much wiser, in a brand new 'better' Nissan Skyline ready to set the world on fire
- Peter Brock, back in a genuinely competitive car for the first time in four years, the car that had taken all before it in 1987.
- Larry Perkins, finally with a full budget and spear heading the Holden attack, running a car developing by the all-conquering TWR operation.
- Tony Longhurst, the young star who had developed under Jim for three seasons, taking remnants of the JPS BMW team into a fully funded Ford Sierra effort.
- Allan Moffat, back in a Ford and, coming into 1988 anyway, the best Ford Sierra there was, an Eggenberger literally with the lot
- DJR a year older and wiser into Ford Sierra development
- Andrew Miedecke, generally the best Sierra of 1987 fresh off leading the early stages of the 1987 JH1000 on merit, ready to roll that into an '88 ATCC campaign


We ended up with a DJR landslide with only Bondy, Longhurst and Miedecke giving chase. Nissan didn't show up with the new car until mid-year and spent the rest of the year developing it, while TWR's new Holden didn't show until after the ATCC ended, and Larry struggled with a little developed old model all season. Miedecke struggled with no budget, while Moffat was strangely sedate all season seeming to run in endurance mode. The BMW's had become uncompetitive over the off season, but it could also be argued that perhaps the Mobil 1 team wasn't getting as much out of them as the old JPS team could have?

A disappointing year in which Group A collapsed as an international formula.

What are some members memories?

Do FIA rules allow a National series to have two events in another country?

Fourth time in the 24 year history of the event that it has been run in November, pretty good move.

I reckon they'll allow spectators, I doubt any will be from the greater Sydney area though

Not to mention Alan Gow being a part of the alleged consortium too

Kelvin O'Reilly to replace Mr Seamer one would then assume?