Quote from: mikeamerica84 on September 29, 2023, 04:25:41 AMI don't know, Muz.  He might be held to a higher standard by his place of employment.

For example, let us say you and I work for, oh..... a bank.  I am a teller at the drive through window.  You are the manager.

If I get a DUI it would look bad for me, but I think I would be spared my job.  If YOU got a DUI, corporate might look down and say, "This guy is one of our managers on salary and it makes us look bad.  Toss him."

Ironically, we both committed the same offense but might be dealt with differently.  Too bad for all of this.

sadly those with some standing or status or fame sometimes pay a higher price for a crime. The system issues a punishment, the public issues another punishment and employers can also. All depends on who you are. Imagine if SVG or another driver gets a DUI??? what would SC do??? is it part of our career choice nowing if we screw up in civilian life it effects our professional one?

I take it as a warning shot, subtle one, fix it for 2024 or ...............

Quote from: drivexby on September 18, 2023, 10:06:28 AMThe Sandown 500 was always an important lead up race to the Bathurst 1000 and had a big crowd following. Sad to see it no longer available on free to air TV and promoted.  I looked at the footage of the main grandstand that was shown towards the end of the race and it was fairly empty.  Either the majority were Ford fans who had left earlier in the day when they could see their cars had no chance or more likely that crowd numbers were low on the day.  It will be interesting to see the crowd numbers at Bathurst this year in comparison to previous years.

Sandown numbers would be big as its been a while since there.

Bathurst all grandstands are sold out and campgrounds as well, so good numbers record numbers dunno.

Not confident they have fixed the parity for Ford and if lacking straight line speed as they think conrod and mountain straight are gunna hurt.

Quote from: Trevor on September 17, 2023, 06:01:14 AMis it being televised on free to air?

Apparently NOT   

Gen 4 FORD? https://www.carsales.com.au/editorial/details/all-electric-ford-mustang-coupe-firms-141959/?fbclid=IwAR2imC8-Ffp1DlM98BXk0NYP8UDlfT38Jmd412ZmzK5sk-osY-U805pIcAI

Quote from: stevo qld on August 03, 2023, 09:31:08 PM

Quote from: AlbertM on August 03, 2023, 07:03:40 PMWelp, if the decision was a result of Supercars blatant inaction on parity, who could blame them.

On the other hand Ford Australia are downsizing, (probably) leading to closure in the near future and the contract is simply up at the end of this season.

Hell-a funny reading the comments on other sites from the bowtie brigade. Questioning Ford's commitment to Supercars. Supercars paid GM to use Camaro. Now that's commitment...LOL!

There are multiple allegations in that lot. Would you care to provide some supporting evidence?

I did read somewhere they are loosing something like $5b on their EVs? maybe they need the cash?

Quote from: mikeamerica84 on August 02, 2023, 10:22:11 AM

Quote from: Bloopy on August 02, 2023, 01:21:37 AM

Quote from: skaifeman on July 31, 2023, 09:24:52 AMThe rule needs to return to the black and white - no contact and no impeding (any braking at all).
It's far more strict and works against those 'it was only a rub' incidents, but it also leaves absolutely 0 grey area or interpretation.

I don't think you can eliminate the grey areas completely. The contact may be a slight brush of a bumper that can barely even be confirmed on camera. Or a little tap of the brakes may've been unnecessary or even deliberate to give a rival a penalty. It sucks seeing a driver's race ruined in the pits so we don't need more of that.

Makes you wonder if the powers to be had a different angle of the situation.  All we saw/I saw was the shot looking back at the cars coming out of pit lane/head on.  It would have been interesting to see from a side view just how much room Waters had over Feeney.

Remember a few years back at Phillip Island where in the first race of the round, about 6-7-8 cars were pegged for cutting the line coming into the pits?  They were all caught on camera.

The next race they actually stationed an official to watch for that for only those caught on the T camera were dinged for the violation.

Apparently Feeney's telemetry was the deciding factor.

Race Control had no issue with the release until T8 complained and it came down to telemetry showing above average brake pressure being applied, it was that close of a call.

I just hope they have fixed the parity and the mustangs get to show something

Quote from: Troy01505 on July 14, 2023, 08:13:21 AM

Quote from: fordman on July 13, 2023, 07:42:22 AM

Quote from: Troy01505 on July 12, 2023, 09:29:17 PMNot much chat for a street race weekend that ADP had a long awaited victory.

Good to see Fords competitive

I am told ADP had a set of green tyres on saved from his DNF the previous day?

There was still significant improvement in parity between the 2

Tyres were a major advantage for ADP and still with only 2 mustangs in top 12 doesn't show parity gains sadly. 

Quote from: Troy01505 on July 12, 2023, 09:29:17 PMNot much chat for a street race weekend that ADP had a long awaited victory.

Good to see Fords competitive

I am told ADP had a set of green tyres on saved from his DNF the previous day?

2025 SVG NASCAR bound I suspect

Quote from: Zac on May 25, 2023, 06:43:41 AM
Mustangs doing better than the rest of the Camaros - despite DJR rarely featuring in the results. DJR has been the leading Ford team for the last decade, probably the leading or equal leading Ford team for most of the Supercar era, yet somehow hasn't yet got on top of the Gen 3 cars. DJR is not only not getting on equal terms with the Camaros, it's gone backwards against its Ford opposition. That's a DJR issue, not a parity one. Last year DJR finished 2nd and 4th in the championship. (Remember last year? Fords finished the year in 2, 3 and 4.) The DJR cars are currently 9th and 18th.

As the season progresses the gaps will widen and the camaros will fill the gaps, still SC have no real plan other than to find the problem which are yet to do, waiting to use this new dyno and then FIND the problem and find the fix and implement it and hope it works by then season is gone [ if not already]. DJR have already said they are treating race days as test days, Fords wont finish 2/3/4 this year thats for sure, all agree even SC there is a disparity, answer is not obvious data wise apparently? DJR sad start could be a combined parity and "chasing" the set-up and the usual unknowns like getting involved in accidents/strategy calls etc the usual things that effect results other than parity. Lets just hope they have started Gen 4 planning NOW so we don't have ths problem in 26 when Camaros are gone.

Quote from: Joe5619 on May 21, 2023, 07:03:17 PM

Quote from: fordman on May 21, 2023, 06:47:05 PM

Quote from: Joe5619 on May 21, 2023, 05:54:38 PM

Quote from: AlbertM on May 21, 2023, 04:47:25 PM
Not luck. It's a clear advantage to Camaro. Supercars are slower than molasses to rectify it.

Ive been watching Motorsports for over 20-30 years & every time there is a parity adjust, the dominate team before the adjust is still the team to beat after the adjustments.. Give some credit where it's due, Erebus is not lucky or has an unfair advantage, they are doing a better job..

I'll bet you 100 bucks, even after the needed parity adjust to the Ford teams, Erebus will still be the ones to catch!

I will save that $100 and say that will happen because a] SC will be slow to act b] slow to implement c] by that time they WILL be impossible to catch as the Ford teams will have to adjust. Look at 2019 Mustang eventually run down by parity changes. What is it now 13 wins in a row didn't they act in 2019 when it was six wins in a row for the Mustang?

LOL... And yet the Mustang went on to win 2 years with Scott!!

Proves it was Scott not the car where were the other Mustangs? look at today Comaros from other teams dominating and even SVG starting to struggle against other Camaros.

Quote from: Joe5619 on May 21, 2023, 05:54:38 PM

Quote from: AlbertM on May 21, 2023, 04:47:25 PM
Not luck. It's a clear advantage to Camaro. Supercars are slower than molasses to rectify it.

Ive been watching Motorsports for over 20-30 years & every time there is a parity adjust, the dominate team before the adjust is still the team to beat after the adjustments.. Give some credit where it's due, Erebus is not lucky or has an unfair advantage, they are doing a better job..

I'll bet you 100 bucks, even after the needed parity adjust to the Ford teams, Erebus will still be the ones to catch!

I will save that $100 and say that will happen because a] SC will be slow to act b] slow to implement c] by that time they WILL be impossible to catch as the Ford teams will have to adjust. Look at 2019 Mustang eventually run down by parity changes. What is it now 13 wins in a row didn't they act in 2019 when it was six wins in a row for the Mustang?

Quote from: Joe5619 on May 21, 2023, 09:44:34 AM
It's all started to get very interesting with regards to parity.. No real wins for Ford this year (don't counting Cam's race1 3rd promotion), only 1 Ford in top ten yesterday was a very bad look..Definitely feel we need an adjustment


But there is also a bit of me thinking Ford teams also need to lift, DJR are a joke, Tickford is a 1 man show, WAU is a 1 man show. Grove/ Reynolds looks like the best chance for a win, but had problems in Qualifying, so was out before the race even started.

SC will procrastinate for half the season, little adjustment here and there but numbers will show 2023 wont be the year parity even after 3 years of trials, Always hard to differentiate between driver/team errors and parity but blind Freddy can see there IS a problem, Camaro supporters will deny as long as possible, and SC will as well at their peril I know several Ford fans who have looked elsewhere for their motorsport fix.