Quote from: AlbertM on September 10, 2021, 10:38:29 AM

Quote from: fordman on September 10, 2021, 07:13:27 AM

Quote from: AlbertM on September 09, 2021, 07:03:38 PM

Quote from: fordman on September 09, 2021, 06:05:51 PM

Quote from: LG on September 09, 2021, 05:00:54 PM
What if say, the first 3 or 4 days was the Repco Bathurst 1000 and the next couple were the Supercheap whatever.
Sort of 2 meetings back to back.

how would they decide on gate takings etc and any fees paid by vendors etc it could fall apart in the splitting of the money no doubt there will be a fight.

Easy, boot everyone out and people buy a ticket to the next event.

Only would work if the event was totally separate events separate programme etc you buy a ticket for each event if they mix the programme it wouldn't work.

Separate events is what LG suggested.

Not sure if TCR would want their event over by Thursday? in essence a midweek event? I like the idea of a Tuesday/Sunday speedweek type of event with both programmes combined. I doubt though with two major sponsors so close in business models I doubt they could agree to equal exposure time and signage placement etc etc

Quote from: madbugger on September 10, 2021, 07:30:38 AM
Given that the major sponsors of each event are competitors, I can't see either of them allowing the event that they sponsor to have any kind of prominent signage during the running of "their" event. Way too many other logistical problems for this idea to get over the line.

agree

Quote from: AlbertM on September 09, 2021, 07:03:38 PM

Quote from: fordman on September 09, 2021, 06:05:51 PM

Quote from: LG on September 09, 2021, 05:00:54 PM
What if say, the first 3 or 4 days was the Repco Bathurst 1000 and the next couple were the Supercheap whatever.
Sort of 2 meetings back to back.

how would they decide on gate takings etc and any fees paid by vendors etc it could fall apart in the splitting of the money no doubt there will be a fight.

Easy, boot everyone out and people buy a ticket to the next event.

Only would work if the event was totally separate events separate programme etc you buy a ticket for each event if they mix the programme it wouldn't work.

Quote from: LG on September 09, 2021, 05:00:54 PM
What if say, the first 3 or 4 days was the Repco Bathurst 1000 and the next couple were the Supercheap whatever.
Sort of 2 meetings back to back.

how would they decide on gate takings etc and any fees paid by vendors etc it could fall apart in the splitting of the money no doubt there will be a fight.

Quote from: Roadways6 on September 09, 2021, 12:28:56 PM
I find it hard to believe a Supercheap sponsored event would combine with a Repco sponsored event

Why would they cheapen the 1000 by combining it with an as yet non-existent event? And how would Supercheap like supporting a support race for a Repco sponsored 1000?

yeah that would be an interesting situation to handle eh

Interesting

https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/09/08/supercars-tcr-could-share-bill-for-bathurst-festival/?fbclid=IwAR07zGzEPmZIzf7wLndNtSfNacZspov3d21oY3TzYgGgaTeVTmaRvd2VWus


My question will be what will happen to the ticket holders/campers [ if its allowed] tickets for the regular bathurst event?

will they be given first option at getting the Tuesday/Wednesday tickets? or will they find themselves in different seats for Tue/Wed and Thur-Sun ?

I would go to the six day event.

Quote from: skaifeman on September 04, 2021, 04:14:16 PM

Quote from: fordman on September 04, 2021, 12:00:14 PM

Quote from: AlbertM on September 04, 2021, 12:07:18 AM
If the SMP round is any indication, the same will apply to Bathurst.

https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/09/03/covid-vaccination-to-be-mandatory-at-smp/

Only thing that will throw a spanner in the works will be state border controls.

Exactly as I believed it would have to be, and reading last paragraph of the story a strong hint Bathurst maybe moved.

There is still hope.

Looking like early December:
https://www.motorsport.com/v8supercars/news/first-december-weekend-bathurst-1000/6659542/

Logical choice.

Plus NSW Premier increasingly making positive noises along the lines of opening up to sporting events [ with Vax passprts] and now even rumblings QLD will now back the agreed plan after appearing to hold out Vic also making similar noises as NSW , only makes it much easier for SC to make the event happen, another 30 days to sort things out can only be good.

Quote from: AlbertM on September 04, 2021, 12:07:18 AM
If the SMP round is any indication, the same will apply to Bathurst.

https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/09/03/covid-vaccination-to-be-mandatory-at-smp/

Only thing that will throw a spanner in the works will be state border controls.

Exactly as I believed it would have to be, and reading last paragraph of the story a strong hint Bathurst maybe moved.

There is still hope.

Quote from: Trevor on August 30, 2021, 09:29:45 AM

Quote from: Sonic on August 30, 2021, 08:31:47 AMditto Trev. just too hard to plan anything at present.

If they run the event with spectators Phil, and some of us Victorian can't get there, will they hold our camps sites over or do we lose our money?

pretty sure they will rollover, they did it for last years event they moved it all over, and did the same for the changed date and expect they will offer a refund to those who want it.

Pretty sure they will have considered what to do for the current ticket/camping customers. Their office staff may be sick of juggling things around though

They COULD run the event as a complete NEW event no reserved seating or camping. BUT those who have reserved campsites and seating are held over to 2022? Those attending the NEW event do not have any ability to hold their seats/sites, probably solve some admin issues and give more flexibility to SC and those who are pretty sure they cannot come to any alternate date security their long held sites/seats are safe for 2022?

Quote from: AlbertM on August 29, 2021, 06:32:19 PM
I'm looking at reality.

BTW, NSW hitting 6million doses early, means absolutely nothing. Like predicting the sun rising in the morning.

you seem upset that our leaders don't set goals but when they do and  reach them you dismiss them? but attack them when they miss them

I prefer to think that since no call has been made about the event is good news, means they are looking at all things to get it to happen, hope is still there, all things that can make it happen are still there positive thinking is good, and even if the event is canned well its canned but at least I am positive today, and will understand they gave it a shot best they can didn't turn their toes up and pull the pin because todays numbers look bad 3 months ago it was different 3 months time even more different.

Quote from: AlbertM on August 29, 2021, 03:50:33 PM

Quote from: fordman on August 29, 2021, 01:19:50 PM

Quote from: AlbertM on August 29, 2021, 12:18:50 PM
Camping? Very ambitious. At this point, just hope the race can go ahead. Keep in mind, December is only being considered because the covid crisis is worsening in NSW.

Have to have ambition, same reason that can allow the race can allow spectators and even camping, can even lockdown camping if you like majority take enough food and drink anyway. If vax rates keep up mid Oct will see 70% can find officials with the passport if you ask, don't assume thy wont come. otherwise just pull the pin now eh just give up eh.

No, we don't give up. We just have to remember that the ones hyping up opening at 70%-80%  are the one that have never hit promised goals yet. We were suppose to be "front of the que".

Well one states has hit a target and even earlier than planned and will be first to the 70/80% well before the event too. A couple are even dragging the chain to gain advantage from it

There is an advantage to following just behind, you get to see the mistakes the leaders make eh.

Pleased to hear you are not giving up on the event it sounded like you were ?

Quote from: stevo qld on August 29, 2021, 12:58:23 PM
I know it may be sad, but only a very small proportion of viewers actually attend the Bathurst site.

If attendees are banned or restricted, then a lot of them will watch on TV anyway.

For advertisers and sponsors, they still get an audience for their expenditure.

The event will cost promoters less to put the event on.

One big drawbacks will be loss of merchandise sales, which can be offset by on-line sales and reduction of sales employee costs.

Local businesses will lose out.

The real biggie will be getting enough volunteer officials who may have to double quarantine if from interstate.

Yes Steve if the event does go ahead without spectators they will get a bigger TV audience obviously, Seamer has already said they really don't want to repeat last year with such restricted spectators seems to tell me they are really keen to get them there. Will they run the event with NO spectators have they said they were considering it. ? I went last year and was a real different event but it did have a positive ting in that they can run events all day without the midday lunch break on track action was continuous which was good.

I went last year and got my usual shirt and cap online before the event same price as if I got it at the event. Not sure if teams lost out overall on Merchandise sale because of Bathurst last year??? But if no event this year will NOT be buying my shirt an cap as usual.

yep for sure locals will miss out as they did last year so every effort to run it should be looked at pretty sure they would appreciate it.

Vaccine passport I believe will be the key thing, no passport no entry, and as for interstate as for the teams as well, it will depend on the border restrictions if they allow vaccinated people to travel and return home as normal then there should be no issue, Two states are already operating a vax passports at certain levels, NSW has indicated it will be as well. The passport I believe will be the KEY point If states outside NSW wont recognize a passport system then the event will struggle to go ahead any event or business also, But since some already do run a system it would be ludicrous not to continue it.

We will see what happens, my guess moved to Dec the latter date, announcement Mid Oct 

Quote from: AlbertM on August 29, 2021, 12:18:50 PM
Camping? Very ambitious. At this point, just hope the race can go ahead. Keep in mind, December is only being considered because the covid crisis is worsening in NSW.

Have to have ambition, same reason that can allow the race can allow spectators and even camping, can even lockdown camping if you like majority take enough food and drink anyway. If vax rates keep up mid Oct will see 70% can find officials with the passport if you ask, don't assume thy wont come. otherwise just pull the pin now eh just give up eh.

I do believe its more than likely a Dec event will be called, it just makes senses to give it as long as possible to sort things out. Vx numbers are looking good everyday, especially in NSW.

I also believe a passport system will have to be used for the event for teams and officials and staff and if go for spectators then they too need to have a passport. They will have to decide on camping is allowed etc.

I hope they advise those current ticket holders and campsite owners that possibly a very late call is made and such some may not get their because of various reasons and there may not be a lot of time to react to their call. 2 weekends have been mooted so fans should know if they can go to Dec date.

Maybe SC could simply sell tickets and campsites as if a new event?, those who have tickets for the Nov event can be offered like they did before a option to retain tickets for 2022 same for camping or refund, would save mucking around with this year and maybe stuffing everything up?

Personally I can go to any date they choose Nov or Dec Just need to know camping allowed or not.

Quote from: AlbertM on August 28, 2021, 08:20:08 PM

Quote from: fordman on August 28, 2021, 02:06:10 PM

Vaccinated people's capability to catch and pass is greatly reduced and hospitalizations are accordingly reduced . children whilst can catch the virus do not suffer from it as much so reports state rare hospitalizations etc. 12-15 are now planning to be vaccinated.

If Bathurst is moved back to Dec that's 3 months for the numbers to come down and as I said above NSW will look at the cases in hospital NOT the cases themselves IF they are ok and within the Doherty report's guidelines I suspect it will be ok it may also mean that vaccinated  spectators may only come from those states that have borders open to those who are fully Vaccinated. QLD and WA are making noises along the lines of keeping shutdown so none from there may come???

I suspect SC will be looking at ALL things to get the event happening with spectators otherwise they would give up now and say something. There is still time before a final call is made and therfore hope is alve.

We're almost 3 months in and the number are still going up. Doom and gloom is reality at this point. BTW the full Doherty report is being kept secret. We've only been told what's in it by Morrison. The bloke that has stuffed up every response to a crisis and never hit a target yet.

now we should move this to the political section as its way way off topic. States have seen the report no evidence anything is being held back. As for targets is hitting some good one now. We are still better than other countries ATM despite the blinkered media.