Quote from: skaifeman on July 22, 2021, 09:08:10 AM

Quote from: stevo qld on July 21, 2021, 07:59:14 PM
I hope that with Gen 3, Supercars get rid of a few bull**** regulations that have no practical purpose.

e.g. In a race that has only ONE tyre compound, cars are expected to have the alternative compound light in the windscreen lit.

One driver, Percat I think, was warned about his delay in turning the light on. BJR leave it off in the pits to preserve battery power. Maybe BJR are wrong in their approach. I simply do not know.

But, I do know that requiring the light on is simply not needed and does nothing to aid the viewing perceptions or further inform other drivers or teams.

There are quite a few other requirements that serve no useful purpose.

That light may be useless to TV viewers, but trackside it lets people know what tyre compound they're on and whether the main or co-driver is in the car. Both pretty useful things when you're trackside and trying to piece together someone's strategy.
Once cars evenly space out you hear jack squat of the trackside commentary.

Trackside at the 2014 Bathurst, we didn't even know Whincup had fuel dramas until about 5 laps to go, meanwhile on TV they were going on about it for pretty well the whole final stint.

When, as I suggested, there is only ONE tyre type used for the whole race, may I further suggest that any rival team that needs a light to show the tyre compound being used would have a very real problem in their technical departments. A similar scenario applies when there are no co-drivers.

I welcome the new rules which creates a class of similar cars which should minimise the balance of performance type handicaps.

IMHO: Of the unsigned and available current drivers:

The absolute best uncontracted driver is stiil Jamie Whincup, but we can rule him out.

Todd Hazlewood is the second most outstanding for choice by 888.

If Todd is selected, Feeney, guaranteed a start by Boost, could find himself in a BJR Boost backed car., or replacing Courtney in an FPR return.

Scott Pye was supported for years by Roland Dane, both Overseas and in Australia. He should not be ruled out.

We still wait, with interest, on the selection of an overseas wildcard or one of the top S5000 drivers, Joey Mawson or James Golding.

I hope that with Gen 3, Supercars get rid of a few bull**** regulations that have no practical purpose.

e.g. In a race that has only ONE tyre compound, cars are expected to have the alternative compound light in the windscreen lit.

One driver, Percat I think, was warned about his delay in turning the light on. BJR leave it off in the pits to preserve battery power. Maybe BJR are wrong in their approach. I simply do not know.

But, I do know that requiring the light on is simply not needed and does nothing to aid the viewing perceptions or further inform other drivers or teams.

There are quite a few other requirements that serve no useful purpose.

Quote from: brighty08 on July 07, 2021, 08:46:15 PM
Opening bids due by 12pm today... No one knows the mysterious fourth bidder???

Maybe you don't, but others clearly do know.

There should be new Supercar owners before 2022, so many of the current Gen 3 criticisms will hopefully cease to be relevant.

There should be new Supercar owners before 2022, so many of the current Gen 3 management criticisms will hopefully cease to be relevant.

A lot depends on whether the buyout is just Archer or the buyout is complete Archer plus team shares.

Should the new owners,  or alternatively, the new major shareholder plus the minority shareholding teams, decide to leave Gen 3 until 2023, then I would not be surprised to find that there are a lot more cost cutting changes.

The cost cutting issue is very much supported by the majority, at minimum, of the favoured buying group.

QuoteAmong the contenders to have emerged is a consortium between Bathurst 1000 winner Morris, Boost Mobile mogul Peter Adderton, SCT Logistics boss Pete Smith, MotoGP legend Mick Doohan and British Touring Car Championship CEO Alan Gow.

If it happens, former racer and manager in Australia and current BTCC boss Alan Gow would be a superb choice to sort out the Gen 3 debacle and maybe return home a become Supercars CEO. (I live in hope)

https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/07/02/morris-breaks-silence-on-supercars-ownership-bid,

QuoteThe chip shortage just keeps getting worse...
While everyone was wowed by the premier of the all-electric Ford Lightning pickup truck, Ford quietly let a bomb drop: it would be temporarily closing 8 factories, cutting production of the Mustang, Bronco Sport, and F-Series. It hardly seems coincidental that the Blue Oval revealed that information while the media fawned over President Biden praising Ford's push into electrification, but soon enough consumers will notice the effect of the announcement.

Ford quietly let a bomb drop: it would be temporarily closing 8 factories, cutting production of the Mustang, Bronco Sport, and F-Series.

https://www.msn.com/en-au/motoring/news/ford-slashes-mustang-bronco-f-series-production/ar-AAKNEQM?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531

Quote from: LG on June 24, 2021, 12:04:51 PM

Quote from: stevo qld on June 24, 2021, 11:41:12 AM

Quote from: skaifeman on June 23, 2021, 09:01:27 PM
Speedcafe catching the wind now too:
https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/06/23/momentum-building-for-sale-of-supercars/

Morris? Adderton? What was the rumour recently too - the Quinn's?

Don't see the teams buying it, they're struggling to fork out the money for a GenIII car, they wouldn't be able to split $30mil (assuming tha's best case).

Not ALL teams are struggling for money and Morris, Adderton, Taylor and Quinn seem to have heaps for a start.

Just because they have "heaps" doesn't mean they should buy it...

I was not suggesting that they should LG. i was responding to skaifeman's suggestion that the teams are struggling financially (not verbatim).

Most of the Supercar teams have owners or part owners who have the financial ability to spend $30M to $49M, but would they really want to.

Regardless, the new Gen 3 would cost less than  $2M for a 2 car entry plus spares, maybe even a spare car. There are only 3 teams that appear to be stretched, BJR, MSR and TS, but appearances aren't always accurate. The last 2 have wealthy part owners, as do all the other teams.

Quote from: skaifeman on June 23, 2021, 09:01:27 PM
Speedcafe catching the wind now too:
https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/06/23/momentum-building-for-sale-of-supercars/

Morris? Adderton? What was the rumour recently too - the Quinn's?

Don't see the teams buying it, they're struggling to fork out the money for a GenIII car, they wouldn't be able to split $30mil (assuming tha's best case).

Not ALL teams are struggling for money and Morris, Adderton, Taylor and Quinn seem to have heaps for a start.

Feeney now has the backing and if 888 don't grab him, I feel he might be back at Tickford with Courtney assigned as his endurance co-driver in a Boost car. A heap of $$$$ might place him in a MSR or TS car.

Pither might find himself back at Team Sydney since one of TS major sponsors now has 888 to play with. Alternatively, he could do a maximum wildcard effort. One of the BJR drivers might find himself reduced to wild cards and enduro co driving with Pither stepping into the seat. (Hint: Daddy may own the team but he needs a sponsor to pay the bills.)

MSR are still wanting to run three cars. They only have one REC as far as I can see. The Rosenberg REC currently resides there for their second. Could Smith be on the move with the family REC. Such a move could see MSR third car garage teaming with Cooldrive and saving them a heap of money, around $200,000. Would work well if MSR go Mustang with gen 3.

https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/06/22/brt-facing-200000-cost-spike-due-to-rec-decision/

E and O E

There were comments from one of the 888 owners at the weekend that even if they selected a driver currently on the grid, it would open up a slot for a younger driver in the seat vacated.

QuoteBroc Feeney will make his full-time debut in the 2022 Repco Supercars Championship whether or not he is selected to succeed Jamie Whincup at Triple Eight Race Engineering.

That's the stunning assurance Boost Mobile mogul Peter Adderton has made, as intrigue continue to swirl around who will score the plum #88 seat when seven-time champion Whincup retires at season's end.

https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/06/21/adderton-promises-feeney-2022-main-game-seat/

BJR has difficulties with fielding four cars.

Five may be too many.

The earlier Supercars sale threads may have been lost in the kerfuffle.

QuoteArcher Capital in pole position for Supercars sell-off

NICK EVANS
RESOURCE WRITER

4:00PM JUNE 20, 2021

Private equity investments in sport are heating up.

At the head of the field is the Supercars motor racing competition, where private equity outfit Archer Capital is trying to offload its majority stake.

Archer has an information memorandum doing the rounds for the competition, which does roughly $20m in annual pre-tax earnings.


Four or five parties have kicked the tyres on the investment, in a process being run by Miles Advisory.

But the glory days are well and truly over in terms of Archer's value.

It paid $180m for its 65 per cent shareholding back in 2011.

Archer is winding up the fund that contains its Supercars investment.

One source said it might only get $30m-$35m, but another thought it could double that.

As always, complicating matters are the owners of the Supercars teams themselves, who own just about all of the remaining 35 per cent of shares.

There are said to be "drag and tag along" provisions in the contract between Archer and the teams, effectively meaning the teams may have to be bought out at the same value that Archer would theoretically sell its shareholding at.

That is said to have proven to be a stumbling block in previous attempts by Archer to sell out.


Meanwhile, soccer's A-league is also moving closer to a deal to sell up to 25 per cent of its competition to private equity.

Some of the funds, which could be up to $100m, would be earmarked for a soccer-specific digital platform that could telecast matches and provide highlights and other content directly to consumers.

Rugby Australia has also expressed its keen interest in selling some of the sport's commercial properties to private equity.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/dataroom/archer-capital-in-pole-position-for-supercars-selloff/news-story/36466ae18b8c27481441e9ee32aa6e50

May be behind a paywall.

Quote from: Trickyonne on May 20, 2021, 06:35:09 PM
Us Aussie have adopted Scotty

But seriously....why so many good racers from NZ ?....dominate Supercars and Indy
Not to mention F1, world super bikes the list goes on

Scott Dixon is a Brisbane boy, who later spent some time in NZ but has been in the USA for the majority of his life.