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#91
Repco Supercars Championship / Supercars 2.7M loss
November 01, 2023, 12:23:53 AM
Historical financials show V8 Supercars owner got off to a shaky start.

The operator of the Supercars racing competition booked a $2.7m loss in its first 15 months of operations and was likely reliant on its owners tipping in more money to stay afloat, documents lodged with the corporate regulator show.

The 2022 financial accounts for Racing Australia Consolidated Enterprises (RACE) show that the organisation turned over $112.5m in the 15 months to the end of 2022, booking a $2.7m loss in the process.

The reporting period covered 15 months due to the creation of the company in September 2021, with the company then acquiring V8 Supercars Holdings and its subsidiaries.

RACE's current liabilities exceeded its current assets by $4.9m, with a current asset deficit a key indicator of financial distress.

The company flagged this in its financial statements, saying the directors, including former V8 champion Mark Skaife and former QSM Media boss Barclay Nettlefold, had a plan in place to ensure the company could continue to operate.

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This creates a material uncertainty that may cast a significant doubt as to whether the group will continue as a going concern and therefore, whether it will settle its liabilities and commitments in the normal course of business.''

The organisation's main revenue source for the 15 month period was sponsorships, coming in at $34.7m, followed by broadcast revenue at $31.2m, with "other race related income" accounting for $17.1m.

Ticket income was $12.7m while corporate hospitality income was $9m.

The Australian reported in July last year that the RACE ownership consortium rejected a buyout offer at that time from European media and entertainment business FanTech.

It is understood that offer included buying out shareholders, taking on $45m in debt and the obligation to pay Supercars team owners about $17m annually calculated on a per-car basis.

The RACE board rejected the FanTech offer, and in a statement at the time, Mr Nettlefold said RACE "has received a number of unsolicited approaches", but did not comment directly on the FanTech offer.

RACE bought Supercars in November 2021 from Archer Capital, which had owned 60 per cent of the series for more than a decade, in a $58.1m transaction.

The 2022 financials show $42.3m in debt owed to Equity Trustees and $5.8m worth of "other facilities''.

It was rumoured in August this year that the billionaire Shahin brothers Sam and Yasser, who own The Bend racetrack in South Australia, were in talks to buy the Supercars competition, however Supercars said at the time the business had not been sold.

"Supercars has not been sold and is still owned by RACE,'' Supercars owner Racing Australia Consolidated Enterprises (RACE) said.

"If Supercars were to be sold or discussions of that nature were taking place, it would be communicated to fans by Supercars.''

The Shahins agreed to sell their OTR petrol and convenience business to Viva Energy for $1.15bn in a deal announced in April, with that deal still yet to be signed of by the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission.

Both Yasser and Sam Shahin are accomplished competitive drivers in their own right, and the family has invested well over $100m into the world class motorsport facilities at The Bend at Tailem Bend southeast of Adelaide. The Bend boasts the second longest permanent circuit in the world after Germany's Nurburgring, and has played host to events such as the Asian Le Mans series and Supercars itself.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/companies/historical-financials-show-v8-supercars-owner-got-off-to-a-shaky-start/news-story/891e82b7e5ba00cb516efff7f6d19a54
#92
It did become very obvious that Skaife is not even across the race sup regs.

He rattled on about a gentleman's agreement that the foremost car at 100 metres before one of the chicanes gets the lead into the chicane.

After a number of Skaifes repeat comments, Crompton corrected him pointing out that it is actually the 150 metre mark and it is enforced and verified by track sensors.

Maybe some of the drivers should also read the Driver's Notes.

But it is hard to judge 150 metres when zapping along at over 200 kmh.
#93
Repco Supercars Championship / Re: Gen 3
October 28, 2023, 09:16:26 PM
Quote from: AlbertM on October 28, 2023, 06:01:15 PMBut this is 2023. If we can't reference the past, obviously predicting the future is off limits as well.   :P

D I L S W G A F W Y T
#94
Repco Supercars Championship / Re: Gen 3
October 28, 2023, 12:26:39 PM
Quote from: AlbertM on October 28, 2023, 10:56:49 AM
Quote from: stevo qld on October 26, 2023, 08:58:20 PMThere are a lot of rumors that Ford and GM will merge to become a bigger more competitive cost-effective company.

What would that do to Ford vs GM Supercar competition.

here is a small sample:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/as-the-uaw-plays-hardball-in-detroit-will-gm-ford-merger-rumors-get-a-jumpstart/ar-AA1iaB0K

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/gm-and-honda-ditch-plans-to-make-cheap-electric-cars-together/ar-AA1iPn2W?cvid=d01017806b49452d94b1252403033d9c&ei=40



Topic is Supercars Gen 3, mate.  ;D

You may have noticed that Ford and GM are the two cars in Gen 3 which is meant to run for years.

Any such merger of two increasingly lower ranked USA Companies would have an effect on Gen 3.
#95
Repco Supercars Championship / Re: Gen 3
October 26, 2023, 08:58:20 PM
There are a lot of rumors that Ford and GM will merge to become a bigger more competitive cost-effective company.

What would that do to Ford vs GM Supercar competition.

here is a small sample:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/as-the-uaw-plays-hardball-in-detroit-will-gm-ford-merger-rumors-get-a-jumpstart/ar-AA1iaB0K

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/gm-and-honda-ditch-plans-to-make-cheap-electric-cars-together/ar-AA1iPn2W?cvid=d01017806b49452d94b1252403033d9c&ei=40

#96
Repco Supercars Championship / Re: Silly Season 2024
October 26, 2023, 10:52:58 AM
I would not be surprised if he ends back at MSR for the co-drive.

#97
Repco Supercars Championship / Re: Gen 3
October 24, 2023, 09:39:21 PM
Upgrades requested approved for the Mustang and Ford are still whining.

https://www.v8sleuth.com.au/ford-claims-supercars-disparity-remains/

(Note for the nostalgia respondents: This is 2023!)

#98
Repco Supercars Championship / Re: Silly Season 2024
October 22, 2023, 06:59:48 PM
Thinking back, I am not in favour of Brown leaving Erebus. They have given him so many opportunities and assistance.

I feel he should have honored his contract. It is a matter of integrity.

I understand why he is doing it and I understand why Betty has let him go.

Too many drivers chase contracts and then do not honour them. One is particular is famous for breaking contracts with multiple teams.

#99
Repco Supercars Championship / Re: Silly Season 2024
October 21, 2023, 08:00:23 PM
I am not concerned that Newcastle is gone.

There are too many street circuits contributing nothing to development of racing and driver training.

IF there are any government money (read ours) lying around, I would prefer it be used in a longer-term community benefit.

Surely there are several licensed tracks that would be suitable, and I would prefer one of them to another street circuit round at Bathurst.

let Supercars support the owners of tracks that support motor sport.
#100
How about back to the topic?

Does any of this guff have anything to do with Ford continuing for another year (or more), or not continuing for another year?
#101
The overwhelming number of posts are about Ford leaving, which they have done before.

Another overwhelming number of posts are about how **** Supercars is.


I say: Piss off again Ford, if you feel that way. GMH have already left.

Then: maybe another class will take over and have the Forum, and public support.

Then the whingers will have to find something else to whinge about.

Poor little hard done by munchkins.
#102
Repco Supercars Championship / Re: Silly Season 2024
October 07, 2023, 06:59:03 PM
Quote from: SetonFan on October 07, 2023, 05:54:34 PMI'm still surprised MSR picked Percat over him but yes this is the next best thing - especially with his Dane connection.

Have a look at the NTI and Truck assist sponsorship.

https://nti.com.au/
#103
Quote from: muz on October 06, 2023, 07:21:43 PMCrompton seems to be subject to an issue with Bathurst's finest culinary delights.

https://www.motorsport.com/v8supercars/news/illness-sidelines-crompton-from-bathurst-1000-tv-duties/10529138/

Are you sure it was food?

Listening to Skaife can have a similar bowel-ific effect!
#104
Albert,

You are just too Trickey for me. Qver and out.  ???

I just want to see the drivers and cars racing and hope that it will be so.  ;D
#105
Quote from: AlbertM on October 05, 2023, 02:44:48 PM
Quote from: stevo qld on October 05, 2023, 02:25:20 PMIt is the old PR stunt whereby teams claim underdog status.

There was a trigger on the parity question a while back. Ford, a huge corporation, could have presented all this information for the last adjustment. Ford could have done all the CFD work early this year or even last year.

They could have flown the 2 cars to Europe or USA and run them in a wind tunnel.


let's not forget that Ford and DJR were part of the 2 year long design process and they choose to make demands in the last week.

I do wonder if Ford choices about using heavy components such as panels and the admirable engine that still weighs like a boat anchor. The Camaro, without anywhere near the apparent GM assistance as with Ford was made to add weight in a lot of places and this has been adjusted many times at Ford request, along with a lot of shift cut changes.

In all this, Walkinshaws only have themselves to blame as they made the car choice. The other established Ford teams had less choice.

And a couple of old sayings to finish off.

"To win, one must first finish." Reliability comes into the result.
and a favorite of my Mothers "Whinge and Win", although she was talking about Pokies, not cars.

"Run what ya brung" and "may the Best Team win".

I still like Tander as a winner, even though he has a mid-fielder co-driver.

Nice troll.

Ford took action, Supercars just rejected it.

I expected that you would twist my words, and I was correct.

Ford did not wind tunnel test.

Ford did not submit the changes requested in a correct and timely way at the last trigger review.

To demand changes days before the most important race in Australia is just bloody minded PR.