It's pretty cool to have flames back again, but is it just me or is it more noticeable on the Fords?

Quote from: mikeamerica84 on December 24, 2022, 04:12:43 AM

Quote from: Wrighty05 on December 23, 2022, 09:12:32 PM

Quote from: Iggle Piggle on December 22, 2022, 09:03:45 AM

Quote from: Wrighty05 on December 21, 2022, 03:22:27 PM
Fair to say Jake Kostecki isn't a winner from the gala

So rumours of altercation with Pye are more than rumour?  And he has been shown the door by Tickford?

Apparently

To both

Pye, too?      Wow!

He meant the bit about altercation with Pye apparently true, and the bit about Jake being shown the door at Tickford also apparently true...was not suggesting that Pye has also been shown the door.

Quote from: Wrighty05 on December 21, 2022, 03:22:27 PM
Fair to say Jake Kostecki isn't a winner from the gala

So rumours of altercation with Pye are more than rumour?  And he has been shown the door by Tickford?

Quote from: LG on December 07, 2022, 04:40:43 PM
I see that the one's who really count and see everything we don't, the other drivers, voted for Cam Waters as the drivers' driver.

Yep - interesting that until now SVG was the only driver recognised twice by that those that really count and see everything we don't see.

For Cam to be honoured by his peers the same amount of times as SVG has been - to know only he and SVG are deemed by those that count as being worthy of that title twice since it was introduced in 2015 - that is big recognition and respect...something many other current and previous lead drivers could not achieve.   

2015: Lee Holdsworth
2016: Shane van Gisbergen
2017: Jamie Whincup
2018: David Reynolds
2019: Scott McLaughlin
2020: Cam Waters
2021: Shane van Gisbergen
2022: Cam Waters

Quote from: Kytabu on December 02, 2022, 06:26:03 PM
It's been so easy for SVG this year that he has given himself a challenge for tomorrow. I think he'll back in contention by half-race distance.

He's going all in on the Holden / Clipsal history thing - setting it up to replicate the first few years of the 500 where Lowndes then Skaife and then Bright won it for HRT from rear of grid

Did that go the way you thought it would Trev?

With 88 crashing out early I though the Teams Championship would be decided in Adelaide, but now with Anton DSQ from today's race due to team fitting a tyre under the minimum 17psi, Red Bull have got it sewn up.

DJR really have made a lot of mistakes in the pits this season.  I get that development has probably stymied with Roger's dollars gone but would have thought most of the pit personnel would be the same and just as drilled as recent years.  Not all of the time/position/points that DJR lost in pits this year is straight-out bad-luck like a jammed gun; a lot of it has been straight out human errors.

Quote from: Brazen on October 08, 2022, 06:12:27 PM
I don't think there's been enough running this weekend to have a real form guide... I think Skaife is being ridiculous saying 15 cars have a shot but I reckon the 6, 25, 17 & 97 are the main players tomorrow... 51 could actually be in for a shot as long as Murphy is up to speed but I'm a little worried he might negate the pace of Stanaway

Cam will win.  The Van Garthbergen entry one of many front-runners caught up in an Ambrose/Murphy type incident approaching Echidna Cutting.

Get there late Friday night for Saturday and Sunday.

I reckon ADP cost Will the win in second race today. Will was good chance of passing SVG down pit straight with a switchback move that ADP got in the way of...was lucky Anton only ruined his own race and not both driver's races.

Even then, with a tyre rubbing for a few laps, damaged bodywork, and bent steering he still had speed over SVG - fastest lap of the race and was closing the gap on SVG (and that wasn't SVG backing off, because Will was also massively increasing the gap to those behind him).  Probably wouldn't have had such a large gap to close if they had pitted Will a lap or 2 sooner, and probably would not have been behind SVG if it wasn't for his team-mate.

What is going on with car 11?  He even qualified behind Will in today's first race where Will didn't even get to have a second run at qualifying due to the electrical issue.  Is it the car?  The driver?  The engineer?  Something not right recently on that side of the garage, and could end up costing them the Teams Championship.

REM with a lot of opinions on something he didn't watch due to having gone surfing 

You're so vain,
You probably thought that post was about you

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Quote from: Iggle Piggle on August 20, 2022, 01:54:15 PM
Skaife doing all he can to try to get Davison to keep his pole position, showing his bias as usual and using his position to influence race control because he knows they are listening to him.

If Skaife does not want him penalised I don't get why he didn't just not replay that bit of footage.  Makes no sense.

I am confused.
Skaife is usually lambasted for his bias toward Holden drivers.

Now he is in trouble for bias toward a Ford driver.

Wait - you're right.

So that must mean that Skaife just calls it like he sees it, and some people just seize on his opinions that do not favour a Ford driver (even if his opinion is valid), and seize on his opinions that favour a Holden driver (again, even when valid); but they then ignore or do not "hear" his opinions that favour a Ford driver, or don't favour a Holden driver, as those comments do not fit their narrative.

Hmmm, that could very well be possible 

Skaife doing all he can to try to get Davison to keep his pole position, showing his bias as usual and using his position to influence race control because he knows they are listening to him.

If Skaife does not want him penalised I don't get why he didn't just not replay that bit of footage.  Makes no sense.

Quote from: Trevor on August 04, 2022, 07:21:13 PM
I never asserted Skaife did anything, why are you fabricating ****?

here is my post

Quote from: Trevor on August 02, 2022, 05:55:17 AM
oh yeah, it was great to see the commentating team up to their old antics, showing footage of the BJR driver using a windscreen cleaner.  As soon as I saw it I thought 'here we go, penalty soon' and then that piece of **** James Taylor gives him a whack

Come on tell me what your screen name is on YB, or do I need to guess your banned user name

This is the bit where you said Skaife (and Crompton) did something:

"oh yeah, it was great to see the commentating team up to their old antics, showing footage of the BJR driver using a windscreen cleaner".

What is YB?  I am on Ford Forums - username Iggle Piggle.

Below is where you quoted someone saying Skaife did his best to get someone a penalty - you put that bit in bold, and prefaced it by saying that person thinks like you do.

Quote from: Trevor on August 02, 2022, 05:44:52 PM
it is pleasant to see that someone on another forum thinks like I do

Quote from: GT450That Pr**k Skaife did his best to get him a penalty at the start line thankfully the stewards responded with a no case to answer in a timely fashion. His bias continually raises its head , at lease Larko comes straight out and admits it and lauds good driving from any driver.

This bit below, who knows what you meant - could be taken many ways - maybe you could clarify what you were implying?

Quote from: Trevor on August 02, 2022, 12:00:15 PM
Please tell me what roles Skaife ad Crompton have with Supercars TV and don't just say 'they just talk to the screens'

This bit is where you are saying if it was not shown on the telecast there would have been no penalty.  As much as you won't admit it, lets say all those screens in Race Control shows all the different camera shots (not just what is currently going to air) - is this suggesting if they were to have seen the 100m/h squeegee on a shot that was not going to air they would have ignored it?

Quote from: Trevor on August 02, 2022, 09:57:12 AM
and I can 100% guarantee that if the TV didn't show it they wouldn't have been pinged, same as Ambrose the fire balaclava

Stop being so piss-weak and just clarify the above and I will move on.  Or don't, and I'll assume you can't.  Or just look away long enough for LG to come in with the lock and save you

Quote from: Trevor on August 04, 2022, 06:54:47 PM

Quote from: Iggle Piggle on August 04, 2022, 08:00:19 AM
Put simply - I call bull**** on Skaife having control over what replays are shown; and I call bull**** on race control listening to the commentary and that swaying their judgement.  That is what your original comment suggests - Skaife doing his best to get Best a penalty.

hey wiggley, wrong incident you tool.. I was talking about the windscreen cleaner in the BJR car - FFS keep up will ya - go back and check my post on the matter

Fair enough - different incident, I was thrown by this...

Quote from: Trevor on August 02, 2022, 05:44:52 PM
it is pleasant to see that someone on another forum thinks like I do

Quote from: GT450That Pr**k Skaife did his best to get him a penalty at the start line thankfully the stewards responded with a no case to answer in a timely fashion. His bias continually raises its head , at lease Larko comes straight out and admits it and lauds good driving from any driver.

But I concede you are talking about a different incident - I was referring to the wrong incident, I was wrong on that particular aspect.  Just in case - see what I did there?  I recognised and accepted where I have made an error, and I admitted it and didn't do all I can to avoid and distract.

My questions to you still stand though seeings as how you are so adamant on your position - which incident aside, how about answering those questions that you continually keep avoiding.

Do you still assert Skaife gets to choose what is replayed on the telecast?

Do you still assert Skaife uses that to influence Race Control and the DSO?

Do you still assert Race Control only watch the telecast - the official Supercars telecast package is the only vision they have on all those different screens?

Do you still assert Race Control listen to the commentary and their decision making is swayed by the commentary team?

Can you just answer those questions?  Without deflection, without trying to change the narrative or create a strawman?  It is telling that you continually avoid answering those or clarifying your earlier comments.