Quote from: Trevor on August 04, 2022, 07:21:35 AM

Quote from: Iggle Piggle on August 03, 2022, 08:53:06 AM
What's on all the other screens in race control?

Do they listen to the commentary?

Does the commentary team choose what footage is shown and select the replays?

Give us the "inside" word, or admit you were wrong Fonzie.

watch the telecast next time and when they cross to the race control you will see it - be quick though, I note that that might be a challenge for you...[snip]

Or...you could just answer those direct questions with your inside knowledge.

I have no doubt the telecast will be on one of those screens.  What is on the rest?  Do they have the volume up on the telecast?

They're simple questions - think we know why you won't answer.

Is there any chance that, like the rest of us that watched that start on the telecast, the DSO and Race Control thought "Hmmmm, at least one if not both of the cars on front row looked like they could have been moving at the start...can we get another look at that?"  I definitely recall times where commentary have had Producer in their ear telling them the Race Control are looking into blah blah blah, then 20 to 30 seconds later the replays come on and the commentators talk to that.

Put simply - I call bull**** on Skaife having control over what replays are shown; and I call bull**** on race control listening to the commentary and that swaying their judgement.  That is what your original comment suggests - Skaife doing his best to get Best a penalty.

If your posting style was not almost exclusively pompous/dogmatic and derogatory you would not find people would take you to task when you post BS; and they would not tire of you like they seem to have over at Ford Forums.  I wouldn't be pursuing this so aggressively if you weren't always so condescending - but you post BS, then when called out you double-down without specifically repeating your claims but by suggesting we all have NFI (in a very patronising way) and therefore we are to assume what you won't repeat or clarify is actually correct.

This isn't a Holden fan versus Ford fan thing - it's plain to see a lot of blue fans have tired of you when you post in General area.

Is it now time for you to mention that you are a hard nut on an unmoderated US drag racing forum?

What's on all the other screens in race control?

Do they listen to the commentary?

Does the commentary team choose what footage is shown and select the replays?

Give us the "inside" word, or admit you were wrong Fonzie.

lol at Trev thinking his opinion is valid because some other random on the internet agrees with his point of view...you can find a huge amount of flat Earthers out there too.  Probably find more people believing Earth is flat than you could find that think Skaife and Crompton are the ones producing the telecast and queuing up the replays while race control sit there watching only the telecast listening to the commentary.

lol again - found that post he quoted...it was Ford Forums.  4 other members of Ford Forums liked that post.

That is less than half the amount of likes this post got: https://www.fordforums.com.au/showpost.php?p=6680226&postcount=33

Quote from: Trevor on August 02, 2022, 05:42:27 PM

Quote from: Iggle Piggle on August 02, 2022, 05:07:41 PM

Quote from: Trevor on August 02, 2022, 09:54:18 AMThanks Mike, yes those in the 'tower of power' rely on the TV coverage, next time these nay-sayers watch and they cross to the 'tower of power' have a look at how many TV screens are in there

Why do they have so many TVs?  There is only one telecast, so according to you they only need one TV. 

sarcasm is the lowest form of wit

Low form of intelligence is not knowing what sarcasm actually is.  Even lower is incorrectly accusing someone of sarcasm when you don't actually understand what sarcasm is.  You quoted me asking a question - a question you did not answer...why so many TVs if they just watch the telecast?

Quote from: Trevor on August 02, 2022, 05:42:27 PM
I am sorry if I am critical of your gods, but seriously get your head out of your arse and look around.  This circus is 'made for TV' nothing more

As I said I have been an insider so probably know a little more than the casual observer

As an insider, please tell us what is on the other screens in race control.

Quote from: Trevor on August 02, 2022, 05:44:52 PM
it is pleasant to see that someone on another forum thinks like I do

Quote from: GT450That Pr**k Skaife did his best to get him a penalty at the start line thankfully the stewards responded with a no case to answer in a timely fashion. His bias continually raises its head , at lease Larko comes straight out and admits it and lauds good driving from any driver.

Without knowing let me have a guess - Ford Forums?  Or XR6 Forums?

On all those screens in race control, do they actually listen to the commentary?  Do they actually have the telecast volume up and are actually actively listening to what Skaife and Crompton say?

Give us the "inside" word.

Quote from: Trevor on August 02, 2022, 09:54:18 AMThanks Mike, yes those in the 'tower of power' rely on the TV coverage, next time these nay-sayers watch and they cross to the 'tower of power' have a look at how many TV screens are in there

Why do they have so many TVs?  There is only one telecast, so according to you they only need one TV. 

Quote from: Trevor on August 02, 2022, 05:55:17 AM
oh yeah, it was great to see the commentating team up to their old antics, showing footage of the BJR driver using a windscreen cleaner.  As soon as I saw it I thought 'here we go, penalty soon' and then that piece of **** James Taylor gives him a whack

Would be the production team that showed the footage - commentary team just talks to what production team show.  "Here we go, production team up to their old antics of showing us things of interest".

Would you rather they don't show us these things?  Don't show us replays of people getting turned around either, so as to avoid someone getting a penalty?  Don't show us someone jumping the start?  Don't show us cars getting dropped with a wheel-gun still on the wheel?  Don't show us wheels spinning during a stop with the car up on jacks?

Or is it just the 100 mile per hour squeegee that should never be shown?  At least you wouldn't have been one of the many calling for a penalty when Dumbrell was using a squeegee at Bathurst in 2017.

Quote from: AlbertM on August 01, 2022, 10:02:10 PM

Quote from: Iggle Piggle on August 01, 2022, 07:06:13 PM
Rage against it all you want, but it is not me you need to convince.  Supercars are chalking up the win to Holden and adding it to their tally, so despite what you may think they are putting it on the scoreboard and in the history books.

No rage. Just correcting your mis-information. I'm not denying Holdens Supercar record.

lol, what exactly did you correct?  I stated Holden won this year's Manufacturer's Championship.  Posted a link from Supercars themselves saying Holden won the Manufacturer's Championship.  What mis-information did you supposedly correct?

Rage against it all you want, but it is not me you need to convince.  Supercars are chalking up the win to Holden and adding it to their tally, so despite what you may think they are putting it on the scoreboard and in the history books.

Quote from: AlbertM on August 01, 2022, 09:00:05 AM

Quote from: Iggle Piggle on July 31, 2022, 10:35:02 PM

Quote from: AlbertM on July 31, 2022, 07:36:07 PM
Holden don't exist. The marque was pulled down and packed away two years ago.

Yes, however the ZB Commodore racecars are still recognised by the Supercars category as Holdens, and Supercars themselves say Holden have clinched the Manufacturer's Championship.

https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/holden-clinches-2022-manufacturers-title/

The Holden marque may have been retired the other year but does not mean the ZBs are not Holdens.

They stopped making Ford Falcons in 2016.  Does that mean Falcon did not win a championship in 2018?

That's right, the marque is gone. Therefore it can not compete. I never said the ZB were not Holdens. Supercars has to play up the manufacturers trophy to keep have the Holden troglodytes happy.

And bad comparison with Falcon. Ford still exists, Falcons are still being raced.

ZB Commodores are Holdens - Holdens are still being raced, even if the company does not exist.

But have it your way - well done Ford for coming second to a competitor that does not exist.  Coming second in a one-horse race is not something you see every day.

I really cannot understand how someone could turn off the third race yesterday at any stage - there was great racing throughout the pack throughout the race.  Not just good close racing with lots of 'real' position changes (on-track passes that were not a result of artificial gimmicks), but the skill that was on display was great to watch throughout the field. And the telecast was not just focused solely on the front-runner(s) so we got to see it too.

Guess that is me.  Sure, a win always makes it more enjoyable, but I can still enjoy a great race even if results don't go my way.  Good example was that Bathurst, (think maybe 2007?), where it was wet towards the end and three Falcons filled the podium but CL and Junior had a ripper race over those last few laps.  ****ed if I will ever be the guy that would turn that off because Holden were not a chance - almost feel sorry for those that would deny themselves seeing good racing because of how results look like they are going to pan out, but then you see how those people carry on and realise sympathy should go to those that know them and have to put up with them and that attitude.

Quote from: AlbertM on July 31, 2022, 07:36:07 PM
Holden don't exist. The marque was pulled down and packed away two years ago.

Yes, however the ZB Commodore racecars are still recognised by the Supercars category as Holdens, and Supercars themselves say Holden have clinched the Manufacturer's Championship.

https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/holden-clinches-2022-manufacturers-title/

The Holden marque may have been retired the other year but does not mean the ZBs are not Holdens.

They stopped making Ford Falcons in 2016.  Does that mean Falcon did not win a championship in 2018?

Holden taking out the Manufacturer's Championship in the final year in which the marque competes.

Quote from: Sonic on July 08, 2022, 09:44:45 PM
saw that they had trouble with a manhole cover... if only they had somewhere to race that didn't have them... like maybe... a race track...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUwn8NIZBFg   

If there was an inherent issue with tyre longevity on Mustangs then it would be obvious.

You wouldn't have to cherry pick only a couple or few races out of all races to try to make a point; and you wouldn't have to talk about the speed of SVG and sometimes Chaz to try to make a point - not withstanding variables such as passing or traffic, you'd be able to show on Natsoft how every Mustang loses time relative to every Commodore in the later stages of every race at every event (or after a certain number of laps).

Of course that is over-simplifying - does not take into account things like different set-ups, different driving styles, different strategies, driving to a number early in a stint in interests of tyre preservation, clean air, and all the other factors that are being ignored which could also explain why one or two drivers/teams are besting one or two other drivers/teams - sometimes

I think when they get their set-up right they can hold on over race distance.