Gen 3

[stevo qld]

Who, in Supercar power land, is discouraging drivers from saying anything negative?

Who, in Supercar power land, is criticising drivers who refrain from saying anything negative?

Could the same person be part of both?

Who , pretending to be a TV commentator , can go on TV and criticise drivers without acknowledging the context that it was himself who was responsible for the drivers attitude?

Really good question.

I didn't see that bit, but I do wonder who could be so rude and insensitive.   


Any driver who has raced long races Saturday and Sunday would be a bit tired and hot in any case. On top of that, they are criticised if they give a personal educated opinion about the cars and are then lambasted if they decline comment about Gen 3. Interviewers the ask them questions that they know drivers have been warned against answering.

Even Davey Reynolds, who is hard to shut up, was quiet, based on reports.

I have tried to be positive about Gen 3 and the people managing it, but have come to the conclusion that Gen 2 cars with lowered roof would have been a better solution.

[stevo qld]

Croke also was able to laugh at suggestions his team should have had an advantage as the Ford homologation team, pointing out that DJR was only responsible for the bodywork of the car.

"I was having a laugh at some of the things we've read, you just have to. We designed the body, which is the aero side of it," Croke told Auto Action.

if DJR, one of two homologation teams had input only in the body, who actually designed the Gen 3 chassis and running gear and all the rest?

https://autoaction.com.au/2023/03/25/djr-responds-to-homologation-mockery

[AlbertM]

https://www.v8sleuth.com.au/gen3-supercars-to-undergo-centre-of-gravity-parity-test/

[fordman]

https://www.v8sleuth.com.au/gen3-supercars-to-undergo-centre-of-gravity-parity-test/

why is this being done NOW surely this could have been done before?

[skaifeman]

https://www.v8sleuth.com.au/gen3-supercars-to-undergo-centre-of-gravity-parity-test/

why is this being done NOW surely this could have been done before?

Given the process doesn't require any track testing, there's no reason why it shouldn't of been.

[stevo qld]

https://www.v8sleuth.com.au/gen3-supercars-to-undergo-centre-of-gravity-parity-test/

why is this being done NOW surely this could have been done before?

Given the process doesn't require any track testing, there's no reason why it shouldn't of been.

The process involves testing multiple cars from multiple teams.

The cars simply did not exist in this quantity, with all cooling systems (in correct places) and other ancillaries, before Newcastle and Teams needed the time since then to work on the cars.

[Sonic]

Will be interesting to see how they go with the repairs to Slade's car.

And Giz's spin/multiple contacts at very high speed!

[skaifeman]

https://www.v8sleuth.com.au/gen3-supercars-to-undergo-centre-of-gravity-parity-test/

why is this being done NOW surely this could have been done before?

Given the process doesn't require any track testing, there's no reason why it shouldn't of been.

The process involves testing multiple cars from multiple teams.

The cars simply did not exist in this quantity, with all cooling systems (in correct places) and other ancillaries, before Newcastle and Teams needed the time since then to work on the cars.

That's a fair statement given their predicament, however it easily could've been done at some stage within the 3 years leading to it's first event.
Did they not have 2 test mules, with the bare 'must have' components fixed (the answer is no, but they should've).

Unsure why multiple teams need to be tested - for example, the COG (assuming everything else was identical between another Chev) of the 888 car would've been worse in R1 at Newcastle due to their driver cooling system sitting on the edge of the car.
The bare race cars need to be identical at a (theoretical) minimum weight - which they had the chance to do with the test mules. All the bolt on's within that is up to the team to achieve the minimum weight, no?

[AlbertM]

Welp, we found why the GM is 60kg lighter. Camaro is using aluminium chassis components to the Mustangs steel.

[skaifeman]

Welp, we found why the GM is 60kg lighter. Camaro is using aluminium chassis components to the Mustangs steel.

Probably only part of the picture. A pair of 200mm rail extensions won't equal 60kg, assuming they're the only culprits.
And should be irrelevant as long as the CoG and minimum weight were set and comparative.

[Joe5619]

Welp, we found why the GM is 60kg lighter. Camaro is using aluminium chassis components to the Mustangs steel.

Surly this is taking the piss from the bonnet thing years ago?

[AlbertM]

Welp, we found why the GM is 60kg lighter. Camaro is using aluminium chassis components to the Mustangs steel.

Surly this is taking the piss from the bonnet thing years ago?

Aluminium is a lighter material than steel. The question was asked, why there is such a large difference in weight. We are finally learning the differences in the cars.

I love the technical side of motor racing.  If it's not your cup of tea. Kindly **** off.

[AlbertM]

Welp, we found why the GM is 60kg lighter. Camaro is using aluminium chassis components to the Mustangs steel.

Probably only part of the picture. A pair of 200mm rail extensions won't equal 60kg, assuming they're the only culprits.
And should be irrelevant as long as the CoG and minimum weight were set and comparative.

Agree. Although interesting why the differing materials in the first place. Is it a test to see which one is suitable and both with use the same in the future?

[Joe5619]

Welp, we found why the GM is 60kg lighter. Camaro is using aluminium chassis components to the Mustangs steel.

Surly this is taking the piss from the bonnet thing years ago?

Aluminium is a lighter material than steel. The question was asked, why there is such a large difference in weight. We are finally learning the differences in the cars.

I love the technical side of motor racing.  If it's not your cup of tea. Kindly **** off.

It was a series question!!!!!

Have they really made the 2 different or you just taking the piss?

[stevo qld]

Now we know that the DJR spokesman was wrong in saying that DJR only did the body.

What we also know is that one of the Tickford cars was illegal and it only came out because of the crash investigation.

I wonder if the Monster Car that was awarded the win was also not legal. It is unlikely that Tickford will ever tell us.

How a scrutineer could check that part is another interesting question.

(There was a nostalgic scrutineering practice whereby a hole was drilled in the main rollbar hoop so that thickness could be measured.)