COVID-19 discussion

[Ospif1]

There's no coming back from this now, NSW will now need to vaccinate to 80% or so and then re-open.  Their issue will be that once they do that, they will be locked out of every other state until they too reach as high percentage, which will happen at a slower rate.

[Bloopy]

A team of scientists recently said 97% vaccinated is the goal now!

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/125589173/covid19-new-data-suggests-herd-immunity-unachievable-in-new-zealand

Based on the existing data around the efficacy of the Pfizer and BioNTech vaccine – 95 per cent according to data from stage three clinical trials – Plank and his team calculated that if a strain with an R0 of 3 was circulating, 71 per cent of the population would need to be vaccinated.

With the Alpha variant, 83 per cent of the population – made up of 90 per cent of the adult population and 55 per cent of under-15s – would need to be vaccinated, the research, which is yet to be formally peer-reviewed found.

For the Delta variant, around 97 per cent – equal coverage in all age groups – would need to be fully vaccinated to reach herd immunity.

[Trevor]

There's no coming back from this now, NSW will now need to vaccinate to 80% or so and then re-open.  Their issue will be that once they do that, they will be locked out of every other state until they too reach as high percentage, which will happen at a slower rate.

it is going exactly as ScoMo wanted it to go in February last year, he is manipulating Gladys Chickleberry from behind the scenes, Dr Chant has no say in this, NSW CHO operates under different rules than the Vict & Qld CHO's

ScoMo wanted it to run free last year and go with the herd immunity thing, but backed down from pressure/backlash from his back-benchers and the public, now he has a Premier to manipulate and ALL of Australia and New Zealand are suffering the consequences

[Trevor]

[WarrenK]

Proof of the covid vacinations to attend race events?    SPC and Qantas to make covid vaccinations compulsory to work for them, now event organisers are doing the same. A stert of things to come across Australia for 2022.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-20/no-jab-no-jive-big-bash-outback-music-festivals-covid-vaccine/100389114?fbclid=IwAR0kwAEx_OqOQtY0YZiv8EOMBH-yIs_tq4xBCmMCKyH_mgTI9qEgYrk2JEI

[stevo qld]

From personal experience running Race Meetings, albeit at a lower level:

It is much easier and much cheaper to run without spectators or have significant spectator areas closed.

The problem for Bathurst will be flaggies and volunteer support personnel. They come from far and wide and at the moment far and wide are reluctant to have them return.



LATER INFORMATION:

The effectiveness of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine against Covid-19 declines faster than that of the AstraZeneca jab, according to a new study published on Thursday.

"Two doses of Pfizer-BioNTech have greater initial effectiveness against new Covid-19 infections, but this declines faster compared with two doses of Oxford-AstraZeneca," researchers at Oxford University said.

Not unusually, I cannot name the brand of inoculation that I have received against, TB, Polio. Flu, Shingles, Influenza (multi types dependent on age) etc. etc. etc. not to mention multiple substances injected during operations

Anyone who considers that I have any concerns about whatever the Doctors stick into my arm is totally mistaken. I am still alive and at three score years and ten, plus. I probably have no right to be.

If people don't want vaccine or only want a particular brand. stiff ****!!!!

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/global/pfizer-effectiveness-declines-faster-than-az-new-study/news-story/3050640a0795278d3e7f9c51810816d3

[Bloopy]

Great couple of videos from this bloke who usually sticks to auto expertise!

[AlbertM]

Regional Vic back into lockdown, same restrictions as Melbourne but without the curfew.

NSW skipping the odd numbers for 822.

[LG]

We need a secure place where all these protestors (the vast majority who don't wear masks) can go and live to show us how they will deal with things when a couple of infected ones share their germs around.

[stevo qld]

We need a secure place where all these protestors (the vast majority who don't wear masks) can go and live to show us how they will deal with things when a couple of infected ones share their germs around.

I though maybe a remote camp in the Tanami Desert, where they are supplied with tents, surplus Army ration packs and water, dropped of by helicopter.

But WA wouldn't like that.

Surely there is some remote place in NSW, as there is in Queensland, SA and NT.

Victoria would be a problem as it is so relatively tiny, the same size as Bob Katter's electorate and a lot less than a few others.

Oh yes: They should not be allowed to leave until their camping fees are paid, a bit like the debtor's prisons in Charles Dickens novels.

Some might feel that bringing back flogging just might be a step too far.

[Trevor]

We need a secure place where all these protestors (the vast majority who don't wear masks) can go and live to show us how they will deal with things when a couple of infected ones share their germs around.

My daughter said yesterday that the police need to spray them from one of their water cannon trucks with blue dye that stays on their skin for a week or more - now that would be fun

[Zac]

There are no water cannon vehicles in use by any police force in Australia. NSW was the only police force that had one, but gave it to Fire & Rescue for use as a water tanker after not having used it in the 12-13 years they had it.

[LG]

There are no water cannon vehicles in use by any police force in Australia. NSW was the only police force that had one, but gave it to Fire & Rescue for use as a water tanker after not having used it in the 12-13 years they had it.

Maybe they could borrow it back. 

[Ospif1]

Concerning events in Israel which are a view into the future for australia.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-21/israel-shows-what-life-looks-like-at-80-per-cent-vaccinated/100394760

Majority of cases from children though, so hopefully they become eligible at younger ages here in the near future.

We will be living with covid like we do with the flu, the question is whether it will mutate into something more dangerous.

The worry is that Australia is littered with this filth:

[AlbertM]

NSW passes 10K cases today.