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Re: COVID-19 discussion
« Reply #450 on: September 03, 2021, 03:56:06 PM »
Vict Gvmt is going to upset the anti-vaxxers big time

They are going to trial letting vaccinated people do stuff anti-vaxxers (or reluctant vaxxers) can't do.  From what I heard it is just a trial for when we hit 80% double dose


Go for it, bloody great idea - why should the vaccinated be held to ransom by the anti-vaxxers or the reluctant vaxxers



Alternatively, why not let the unvaccinated do whatever vaccinated people can?

Once vaccinations levels are high enough, and communities open up, the virus will spread among vaccinated people. There's no way to stop that happening. Vaccinated people, as a general rule, won't get severely Ill or die.
If unvaccinated people are allowed to mix & mingle, they will only harm themselves.

It appears to me that restricting the movements of unvaccinated people is only to save them from themselves.

The only downside I see is people who are not anti-vax, but for genuine medical reasons can't get vaccinated.
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« Reply #451 on: September 03, 2021, 05:02:11 PM »
It would be beneficial for people to actually read the news articles they link, before sharing their uninformed opinion.

As for opinions, that is exactly what this whole string is about.
Should any of you actually be qualified as an epidemiologist, then I apologise to you.

Try this one. I thought the request and lack of response was well know. Obviously not.

Morrison requested. Biden didn't respond affirmatively. USA wasted vaccine and Australia didn't get it. 

I don't think that includes an opinion apart from that based on news reports.

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Scott Morrison has reportedly pleaded with the Biden administration to send up to 26 million unused vaccine doses Down Under as the nation’s Delta strain crisis spirals out of control.

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/australia-urges-us-to-send-26-million-vaccine-doses-as-pandemic-spirals-out-of-control/news-story/0ece54936e937756d6b36b19f3d006a7

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Re: COVID-19 discussion
« Reply #452 on: September 03, 2021, 06:55:17 PM »
It would be beneficial for people to actually read the news articles they link, before sharing their uninformed opinion.

As for opinions, that is exactly what this whole string is about.
Should any of you actually be qualified as an epidemiologist, then I apologise to you.

Try this one. I thought the request and lack of response was well know. Obviously not.

Morrison requested. Biden didn't respond affirmatively. USA wasted vaccine and Australia didn't get it. 

I don't think that includes an opinion apart from that based on news reports.

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Scott Morrison has reportedly pleaded with the Biden administration to send up to 26 million unused vaccine doses Down Under as the nation’s Delta strain crisis spirals out of control.

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/australia-urges-us-to-send-26-million-vaccine-doses-as-pandemic-spirals-out-of-control/news-story/0ece54936e937756d6b36b19f3d006a7

Still haven't read the article, have you?  How is Biden responsible for "cracked vials, errors in diluting vaccines, freezer malfunctions and more doses in a vial than people who want them, with a limited window of a few hours to use a vial once it is punctured." You don't expect the US to send us those doses?

Speaking of facts. It is a fact Morrison delayed getting enough Pfizer in the first place. He waited 4 months and after 1 billion doses were already ordered by 38 other countries. And when he did order it only ordered enough for 5 million people in a country of 27million. He spent more time and effort getting his mate a job at the OECD than getting enough vaccine in the country. Business leaders got so worried that they called on a former Labor PM to do something. Morrison is only making deals now because he failed almost 12 months ago and Delta is out of control in NSW.

As for Biden not responding, he asked us to take climate change seriously. All he got was cold shoulder too.
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Re: COVID-19 discussion
« Reply #453 on: September 03, 2021, 07:55:14 PM »
It would be beneficial for people to actually read the news articles they link, before sharing their uninformed opinion.

As for opinions, that is exactly what this whole string is about.
Should any of you actually be qualified as an epidemiologist, then I apologise to you.

Try this one. I thought the request and lack of response was well know. Obviously not.

Morrison requested. Biden didn't respond affirmatively. USA wasted vaccine and Australia didn't get it. 

I don't think that includes an opinion apart from that based on news reports.

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Scott Morrison has reportedly pleaded with the Biden administration to send up to 26 million unused vaccine doses Down Under as the nation’s Delta strain crisis spirals out of control.

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/australia-urges-us-to-send-26-million-vaccine-doses-as-pandemic-spirals-out-of-control/news-story/0ece54936e937756d6b36b19f3d006a7

Still haven't read the article, have you?  How is Biden responsible for "cracked vials, errors in diluting vaccines, freezer malfunctions and more doses in a vial than people who want them, with a limited window of a few hours to use a vial once it is punctured." You don't expect the US to send us those doses?

Speaking of facts. It is a fact Morrison delayed getting enough Pfizer in the first place. He waited 4 months and after 1 billion doses were already ordered by 38 other countries. And when he did order it only ordered enough for 5 million people in a country of 27million. He spent more time and effort getting his mate a job at the OECD than getting enough vaccine in the country. Business leaders got so worried that they called on a former Labor PM to do something. Morrison is only making deals now because he failed almost 12 months ago and Delta is out of control in NSW.

As for Biden not responding, he asked us to take climate change seriously. All he got was cold shoulder too.
You're trying to find common sense from a conservative.  That's your problem.

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Looks like Delta might be in QLD now thanks to that Truckie.  Lockdown imminent?

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« Reply #454 on: September 03, 2021, 10:58:41 PM »

In saying that, I went to a supermarket last night and I walked straight back out. Just after 9pm and it was jam packed with all ages. Some masks, some without, no social distancing, workers with masks on their chins etc!

And that is exactly why the spread keeps happening, people are either too complacent, or just don't care about anyone but themselves.

People seem to be over living in fear in an area that’s had 0 cases for over a year and less then 10 from the beginning. They just don’t care anymore. It was predicted to be here within 2 weeks Monday just gone and I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s here now.

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« Reply #455 on: September 04, 2021, 05:56:11 AM »

In saying that, I went to a supermarket last night and I walked straight back out. Just after 9pm and it was jam packed with all ages. Some masks, some without, no social distancing, workers with masks on their chins etc!

And that is exactly why the spread keeps happening, people are either too complacent, or just don't care about anyone but themselves.

People seem to be over living in fear in an area that’s had 0 cases for over a year and less then 10 from the beginning. They just don’t care anymore. It was predicted to be here within 2 weeks Monday just gone and I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s here now.

It's not about living in fear, it's about living in axway that respects the health of others & the wellbeing of your community (economic & physical health).

But it's natural to become complacent when there are no known cases in the area.

With no cases in my region I've been complacent for a long time.

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« Reply #456 on: September 04, 2021, 08:13:45 AM »
It would be beneficial for people to actually read the news articles they link, before sharing their uninformed opinion.

As for opinions, that is exactly what this whole string is about.
Should any of you actually be qualified as an epidemiologist, then I apologise to you.

Try this one. I thought the request and lack of response was well know. Obviously not.

Morrison requested. Biden didn't respond affirmatively. USA wasted vaccine and Australia didn't get it. 

I don't think that includes an opinion apart from that based on news reports.

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Scott Morrison has reportedly pleaded with the Biden administration to send up to 26 million unused vaccine doses Down Under as the nation’s Delta strain crisis spirals out of control.

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/australia-urges-us-to-send-26-million-vaccine-doses-as-pandemic-spirals-out-of-control/news-story/0ece54936e937756d6b36b19f3d006a7

Still haven't read the article, have you?  How is Biden responsible for "cracked vials, errors in diluting vaccines, freezer malfunctions and more doses in a vial than people who want them, with a limited window of a few hours to use a vial once it is punctured." You don't expect the US to send us those doses?

Speaking of facts. It is a fact Morrison delayed getting enough Pfizer in the first place. He waited 4 months and after 1 billion doses were already ordered by 38 other countries. And when he did order it only ordered enough for 5 million people in a country of 27million. He spent more time and effort getting his mate a job at the OECD than getting enough vaccine in the country. Business leaders got so worried that they called on a former Labor PM to do something. Morrison is only making deals now because he failed almost 12 months ago and Delta is out of control in NSW.

As for Biden not responding, he asked us to take climate change seriously. All he got was cold shoulder too.
You're trying to find common sense from a conservative.  That's your problem.

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Looks like Delta might be in QLD now thanks to that Truckie.  Lockdown imminent?

To suggest that a poster is a "conservative" is member abuse and was not allowed on the old Forum.


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« Reply #457 on: September 04, 2021, 10:36:42 AM »
Conservative and its opposite, liberal are political and social ideologies. Not an insult.



In saying that, I went to a supermarket last night and I walked straight back out. Just after 9pm and it was jam packed with all ages. Some masks, some without, no social distancing, workers with masks on their chins etc!

And that is exactly why the spread keeps happening, people are either too complacent, or just don't care about anyone but themselves.

People seem to be over living in fear in an area that’s had 0 cases for over a year and less then 10 from the beginning. They just don’t care anymore. It was predicted to be here within 2 weeks Monday just gone and I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s here now.

It's not about living in fear, it's about living in axway that respects the health of others & the wellbeing of your community (economic & physical health).

But it's natural to become complacent when there are no known cases in the area.

With no cases in my region I've been complacent for a long time.

I fear for my elderly Parents. Both over 80, my Mum has health issues. I do everything I can not to bring covid to them.

I just can't imagine life knowing I passed on the virus and changed somebody's life forever.
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« Reply #458 on: September 04, 2021, 11:28:33 AM »
To suggest that a poster is a "conservative" is member abuse and was not allowed on the old Forum.

Wow, what are we now going to call the English Government, maybe Torries is acceptable

Best no-one mention capitalism, socialism or heaven forbid, communism
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« Reply #459 on: September 04, 2021, 12:56:59 PM »
The Covid thread is closed for a couple of days to let it sink in that it is not a political thread!


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« Reply #460 on: September 12, 2021, 10:04:47 PM »
The Covid thread is closed for a couple of days to let it sink in that it is not a political thread!

Good to see all the idiots fly out of their homes filling shops, bunnings, parks and beaches with all their masks on their chins the first weekend of eased restrictions.

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« Reply #461 on: September 13, 2021, 05:48:32 AM »
I gotta tell ya I was a bit stunned to see to see so many on the beach in Sydney
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« Reply #462 on: September 13, 2021, 08:35:14 AM »
I gotta tell ya I was a bit stunned to see to see so many on the beach in Sydney

The vagaries of photos taken with a telephoto lens.
An overhead shot shows 99% of the people social distancing as required.

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« Reply #463 on: September 13, 2021, 10:09:42 AM »
it didn't look good - but we know how much we can trust MSM
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« Reply #464 on: September 15, 2021, 10:19:55 PM »
Well, I got my first dose today, and to be honest, I'm not entirely sure what the fuss was about. Fair enough if you're worried about possible side effects or are absolutely petrified of needles, but the process is fairly straight forward.

Sit down, get jabbed, wait fifteen minutes while you see how it affects you, get your free Chupa Chup and leave.

In saying that, I am currently posting this from Pine Gap, so the 5G tracking chip does seem to work. :)