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Started by Trevor, May 13, 2021, 04:43:39 PM

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AlbertM

How does letting a deadly virus getting loose win elections? What gain is there for "milking it"?

The problem is people not taking Covid19 seriously and think it's OK to do what ever they want putting other people at risk.
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EgoFG

If the isolation is true isolation, then two weeks is entirely sufficient if it includes testing every two days, and 3 clear tests before exit (in fact it could be one week).

I would like to see the rules adjusted for those with antibody evidence from blood test (AZ. Pfizer, Moderna. J&J or recovery)

Troy01505

Quote from: AlbertM on June 11, 2021, 11:25:21 PM
How does letting a deadly virus getting loose win elections? What gain is there for "milking it"?

The problem is people not taking Covid19 seriously and think it's OK to do what ever they want putting other people at risk.

The real problem in Victoria is that working households on lower incomes can not afford to take it seriously anymore, thousands have been laid off, hundreds of small businesses have been forced to close for good and homeless numbers are skyrocketing!

If anything Dan and his gang have lost themselves the next election.

AlbertM

Exactly. It is not doing the government any favours by stringing Covid along.

IMO though. I wouldn't blame the lower income households for the breaches. They are the least likely to travel,  go out and visit multiple retailers, sporting events, recreation.
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mikeamerica84

Here is one from over this way:

Right, wrong, or indifferent, my state (Michigan) is lifting all mask requirements, and outdoor/indoor capacity limits on July 1.  Where I work they will follow suit and likewise relax.  Up until now, for about a month, you were only required to wear a mask in public if you have not been vaccinated.  Uh..... yeah.... the "Honor System".    ::)
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LG

Quote from: AlbertM on June 12, 2021, 12:35:49 AM
Exactly. It is not doing the government any favours by stringing Covid along.

IMO though. I wouldn't blame the lower income households for the breaches. They are the least likely to travel,  go out and visit multiple retailers, sporting events, recreation.


The lower income households aren't the one packing the van and driving up to Qld and spreading the virus.

Trickyonne

Quote from: AlbertM on June 11, 2021, 11:25:21 PM
How does letting a deadly virus getting loose win elections? What gain is there for "milking it"?

The problem is people not taking Covid19 seriously and think it's OK to do what ever they want putting other people at risk.

" vote for us, we kept you safe from this horrible flu that 99.9% of people survive from "
i said this at the start of the pandemic...more buisness will collapse than people die from this virus
Paul Murray Live

AlbertM

The actual survival rate is around 75-80%. 3.8 million people have died of Covid19, hardly think that many businesses have collapsed.

According the an Australian Government ad in the news papers, we are better now then before the pandemic. So which is it?
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Bloopy

Quote from: AlbertM on June 14, 2021, 02:19:25 AM
The actual survival rate is around 75-80%. 3.8 million people have died of Covid19, hardly think that many businesses have collapsed.

Huh? The 3.8 million is out of 176 million cases, so that's 97.8% survival. Australia's a bit below the world average at 97.0% survival. Of course, if you don't lock down, your hospitals get overrun and the stats get worse. Eg. Mexico's been hammered with their survival being much closer to 90%.

djr18fan

Quote from: Bloopy on June 14, 2021, 03:44:01 AM
Quote from: AlbertM on June 14, 2021, 02:19:25 AM
The actual survival rate is around 75-80%. 3.8 million people have died of Covid19, hardly think that many businesses have collapsed.

Huh? The 3.8 million is out of 176 million cases, so that's 97.8% survival. Australia's a bit below the world average at 97.0% survival. Of course, if you don't lock down, your hospitals get overrun and the stats get worse. Eg. Mexico's been hammered with their survival being much closer to 90%.

It's like saying we shouldn't shouldn't wear seatbelts, because not that many people die in vehicle accidents compared to the number of vehicle trips. Use the lower stats caused by doing something to argue that thing doesn't need to be done.
Never mind that some people think businesses are more important than lives.
WWJD.

Trickyonne

Quote from: djr18fan on June 14, 2021, 05:05:15 AM
Quote from: Bloopy on June 14, 2021, 03:44:01 AM
Quote from: AlbertM on June 14, 2021, 02:19:25 AM
The actual survival rate is around 75-80%. 3.8 million people have died of Covid19, hardly think that many businesses have collapsed.

Huh? The 3.8 million is out of 176 million cases, so that's 97.8% survival. Australia's a bit below the world average at 97.0% survival. Of course, if you don't lock down, your hospitals get overrun and the stats get worse. Eg. Mexico's been hammered with their survival being much closer to 90%.

It's like saying we shouldn't shouldn't wear seatbelts, because not that many people die in vehicle accidents compared to the number of vehicle trips. Use the lower stats caused by doing something to argue that thing doesn't need to be done.
Never mind that some people think businesses are more important than lives.
WWJD.

So we shouldn't drive to work due to the possibility of a car accident ?....to quote Biden
" come on man "
Paul Murray Live

AlbertM

Quote from: Bloopy on June 14, 2021, 03:44:01 AM
Quote from: AlbertM on June 14, 2021, 02:19:25 AM
The actual survival rate is around 75-80%. 3.8 million people have died of Covid19, hardly think that many businesses have collapsed.

Huh? The 3.8 million is out of 176 million cases, so that's 97.8% survival. Australia's a bit below the world average at 97.0% survival. Of course, if you don't lock down, your hospitals get overrun and the stats get worse. Eg. Mexico's been hammered with their survival being much closer to 90%.

Bingo!
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AlbertM

Quote from: Trickyonne on June 14, 2021, 10:31:22 AM
Quote from: djr18fan on June 14, 2021, 05:05:15 AM
Quote from: Bloopy on June 14, 2021, 03:44:01 AM
Quote from: AlbertM on June 14, 2021, 02:19:25 AM
The actual survival rate is around 75-80%. 3.8 million people have died of Covid19, hardly think that many businesses have collapsed.

Huh? The 3.8 million is out of 176 million cases, so that's 97.8% survival. Australia's a bit below the world average at 97.0% survival. Of course, if you don't lock down, your hospitals get overrun and the stats get worse. Eg. Mexico's been hammered with their survival being much closer to 90%.

It's like saying we shouldn't shouldn't wear seatbelts, because not that many people die in vehicle accidents compared to the number of vehicle trips. Use the lower stats caused by doing something to argue that thing doesn't need to be done.
Never mind that some people think businesses are more important than lives.
WWJD.

So we shouldn't drive to work due to the possibility of a car accident ?....to quote Biden
" come on man "

Masks, social distancing are the seat belt, lock downs are the airbags.
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Trickyonne

Quote from: AlbertM on June 14, 2021, 10:49:48 AM
Quote from: Trickyonne on June 14, 2021, 10:31:22 AM
Quote from: djr18fan on June 14, 2021, 05:05:15 AM
Quote from: Bloopy on June 14, 2021, 03:44:01 AM
Quote from: AlbertM on June 14, 2021, 02:19:25 AM
The actual survival rate is around 75-80%. 3.8 million people have died of Covid19, hardly think that many businesses have collapsed.

Huh? The 3.8 million is out of 176 million cases, so that's 97.8% survival. Australia's a bit below the world average at 97.0% survival. Of course, if you don't lock down, your hospitals get overrun and the stats get worse. Eg. Mexico's been hammered with their survival being much closer to 90%.

It's like saying we shouldn't shouldn't wear seatbelts, because not that many people die in vehicle accidents compared to the number of vehicle trips. Use the lower stats caused by doing something to argue that thing doesn't need to be done.
Never mind that some people think businesses are more important than lives.
WWJD.

So we shouldn't drive to work due to the possibility of a car accident ?....to quote Biden
" come on man "

Masks, social distancing are the seat belt, lock downs are the airbags.

for 124 active covid cases nationaly
clearly victoria has failed dismally at controlling covid, yet have the most tighest lockdowns
Paul Murray Live

AlbertM

That's what happens when people flout the rules.
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