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Silly Season 2023 "Super 2 and 3"

Started by stevo qld, July 04, 2022, 09:22:29 PM

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stevo qld

The new rules have been posted.

QuoteSuper2 will be an all-in of the Holden ZB Commodore, Gen2-spec Ford Mustang, VF Commodore, FGX Falcon, and Nissan Altima; the Mercedes E63 AMG and Volvo S60 also remain eligible, not that any have ever been seen in the series.

Furthermore, the Super3 class will remain, for Project Blueprint-spec VE Commodores and FG Falcons.

QuoteConsistent with Burgess's comments, Super2 teams faced two key issues with respect to a hard changeover to Gen2.

Firstly, the market is tight.

Speedcafe.com understands that many cars which are currently on the race track in VCS (code for the Supercars Championship) have already been sold to collectors and are in fact being leased back from their new owners.

A second reason, perhaps related to the first, is that the asking price for Gen2 cars is believed to still be in the region of several hundred thousand dollars each, a figure which would stretch Super2 teams, especially those which field multiple cars.

This will please 2022 Super 2 teams as they do not need to spend big bucks on an upgrade to 2022 Super 1 cars.

But the current Super 1 cars are superior to the previous Super 1 cars (current Super 2) and some teams will be worried about some sort of performance equalisation.

https://www.speedcafe.com/2022/07/04/all-cotf-models-to-compete-for-2023-super2-series-title/
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skaifeman

Quote from: stevo qld on July 04, 2022, 09:22:29 PM
But the current Super 1 cars are superior to the previous Super 1 cars (current Super 2) and some teams will be worried about some sort of performance equalisation.

https://www.speedcafe.com/2022/07/04/all-cotf-models-to-compete-for-2023-super2-series-title/

Just add lead bars to the roll cage 8).
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stevo qld

https://autoaction.com.au/2022/08/17/supercars-confirm-zb-commodore-and-mustang-for-2023-dunlop-super2-series

QuoteSupercars has confirmed that the ZB Commodore and Car of the Future Ford Mustang will be the only models eligible to compete for the 2023 Dunlop Super2 series – ruling out all current vehicles for the category past the end of the current series.

I do wonder just how many of the current model cars will be available in 2023. A lot are being sold, or have already been sold, to collectors.

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stevo qld

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With Super2 2023 being restricted to current spec 2022 Super 1 cars, there is a scramble for pre-raced chassis. GRM have sold one to Sidwell in the UK and he has a sizable seven Supercar collection, and races them too. Tickford have purchased another

The Team 18 cars are going to Eggleston and Eggleston are trying to lease more off Peter Xiberris. Apparently Peter owns five of them, including the three current 888 cars.

888 may have to stop racing in Super2 as it struggles to find a chassis. They aren't allowed to build a new chassis. Suddenly the soon to be superceded Super 2 cars will be attracting good prices and just add a hundred thousand dollars to upgrade.

I wonder what will happen to the Nissans that are currently racing.

https://www.v8sleuth.com.au/team-18-supercars-find-new-home-for-2023/

https://www.v8sleuth.com.au/triple-eight-scrambling-to-stay-in-super2/

https://www.v8sleuth.com.au/major-supercars-shipment-arrives-in-uk/

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skaifeman

Wood looks really good, and aggressive.
Seemingly a great move by WAU at this stage to graduate him up.
"Ford's Bathurst winning bonus didn't even cover the cost of the after-party" - Allan Moffat, 1977