Townies (Spoliers)

[skaifeman]

Whatever little sportsmanship respect I had for Shane is gone.

Good to see you stayed for the race. Anton had the better softs today.

Agree re SVG, wasn't needed. I'd say silly games since that rainy day at Eastern Creek would still be in his mind.
Happy the results weren't affected.

Just to add, Davo gets the drive of the day!

[Joe5619]

Great race! I'm glad to see Anton having a go at the end, I wish Pye had taken Giz with him at the start.

And Giz is such a dirty sportsmen..

[REM]

Great to see ADP have a go and get in SVG's head! Talk about a glass jaw, SVG can dish it out, but he sure can't handle it back....if only Cam was a little closer to them! Keep it up boys....

[kennymiesta]

Great race! I'm glad to see Anton having a go at the end, I wish Pye had taken Giz with him at the start.

And Giz is such a dirty sportsmen..

Even when the bloke has done nothing wrong, people still try and bash him. In the heat of the moment, sometimes the last person you want to associate with is the one who just turned you around. Both Shane and Anton mentioned they discussed it off camera and everything was all good.
Imagine had it been a role reversal. Everyone would be labeling Anton as a hero for snobbing Shane. Don't deny it, you know it would be true.

[REM]

Great race! I'm glad to see Anton having a go at the end, I wish Pye had taken Giz with him at the start.

And Giz is such a dirty sportsmen..

Even when the bloke has done nothing wrong, people still try and bash him. In the heat of the moment, sometimes the last person you want to associate with is the one who just turned you around. Both Shane and Anton mentioned they discussed it off camera and everything was all good.
Imagine had it been a role reversal. Everyone would be labeling Anton as a hero for snobbing Shane. Don't deny it, you know it would be true.

nah, if Anton acted like an entitled, petulant git, we'd call him on it...

[djr18fan]

SVG rubs other cars while passing them. Is the villain.


Anton makes a ridiculous move turning SVG around. SVG is the villain.

[skaifeman]

SVG rubs other cars while passing them. Is the villain.


Anton makes a ridiculous move turning SVG around. SVG is the villain.

Not sure anyone is arguing the move. It was miles off.

[Joe5619]

Great race! I'm glad to see Anton having a go at the end, I wish Pye had taken Giz with him at the start.

And Giz is such a dirty sportsmen..

Even when the bloke has done nothing wrong, people still try and bash him. In the heat of the moment, sometimes the last person you want to associate with is the one who just turned you around. Both Shane and Anton mentioned they discussed it off camera and everything was all good.
Imagine had it been a role reversal. Everyone would be labeling Anton as a hero for snobbing Shane. Don't deny it, you know it would be true.

Define "nothing wrong".. Yes the move by Anton didn't work & clearly Anton was in the wrong, but Giz dangerously pulling up behind Anton on the finish line instead on just overtaking, so Anton might get a bigger penalty is not smart or clever (like the moron commentators tried to tell us), it's dirty & bad sportsmanship. Then to snub Anton when his trying to say sorry, is scum!!

Hey, that's just me.. You are entitled to your own opinion.

[fordman]

yep the move there but it missed and ADP did the right thing by attempting the redress, SVG tried the cunning move of not redressing in the hope of a bigger penalty, proves he is a quick thinking driver. ADP should have just stopped altogether forcing SVG to give up first is Waters overtook both?? one more lap would have been interesting.

good to see though the stewards in effect did what ADP was trying to do and swop positions.

Both days were ok I thought the fuel/tyre rule I thought did it job, saw a car on a different strategy run down the leader and gave us a good race for the last 5/10 laps on both days. SVG ran one down and held one off. Plus good battles for 3-4 as well.

[stevo qld]

I think there is a misconception that redressing can mitigate the crime. (The talking heads do confuse the viewers).

Time and time again we have seen drivers penalised even when they have redressed.

It seems to me that a bump and pass is forgiven if there is redressal.

But, it seems that where a driver crashes and turns another driver, a penalty is applied regardless.

In this case, I believe that car 11 would have received a time penalty regardless.

Tickford were probably unhappy that a 15 second penalty was not applied, or even longer.

[skaifeman]

I think there is a misconception that redressing can mitigate the crime. (The talking heads do confuse the viewers).

Time and time again we have seen drivers penalised even when they have redressed.

It seems to me that a bump and pass is forgiven if there is redressal.

But, it seems that where a driver crashes and turns another driver, a penalty is applied regardless.

In this case, I believe that car 11 would have received a time penalty regardless.

Tickford were probably unhappy that a 15 second penalty was not applied, or even longer.

I think you're right. The redress rule got canned after 2016 Bathurst, no?

[Joe5619]

I think there is a misconception that redressing can mitigate the crime. (The talking heads do confuse the viewers).

Time and time again we have seen drivers penalised even when they have redressed.

It seems to me that a bump and pass is forgiven if there is redressal.

But, it seems that where a driver crashes and turns another driver, a penalty is applied regardless.

In this case, I believe that car 11 would have received a time penalty regardless.

Tickford were probably unhappy that a 15 second penalty was not applied, or even longer.

Give me one example when someone redressed & still got a penalised, just one example will do!!

[Zac]

Those pics show that pole is off the racing line, but so is 2nd, so it doesn't make a big difference at Townsville.
I agree with you that it was a fun race - well, certainly not boring. There was plenty going on throughout the field throughout the race, but I'm having a think about what would make that race less boring and predictable for those who thought that it was. Maybe if Will Davison started on pole, but dropped behind SVG by almost 20 seconds after his second stop after taking on a big load of fuel,  but came blazing back to nail Shane with about two laps to go...  There's probably some who would regard that as a sleepy, predictable borefest - but it's hypothetical at best. (No offence, REM. It's still my shout at SMP .)

Zaccy- if WD did that, there would be a subsequent parity adjustment for sure...😉

After Will's drive yesterday from 25th (and last) to 7th, there should be a parity adjustment coming up. Not "for sure", but there should be  . The race speed from a damaged car was pretty impressive, both DJR cars come to think of it - and two of the Tickford cars as well.

Another good race, with neither race this weekend being a borefest - nor predictable, just the same winner. My humble opinion on that last corner was best summed up by Shane to Anton: "Congratulations for having a go - but what were you thinking?" So much for the snob/snub, whatever people want to call it. Within a minute of the snob/snub, SVG and ADP had a chat and both agreed it was all good, and let's have more of it. The attempted redress shows problems with redressing, although unlike JW at Bathurst, this one certainly wasn't dangerous (Joe). Probably not SVG's best idea to refuse the redress, but to think of it and do it in the few seconds he had after being punted at the last corner of 250ks of racing shows how he's always thinking while racing.

Bad sportsmanship award goes to Lee Holdsworth. What was he thinking? Out of character, from the little I know of him. Another good weekend of racing. Sometimes it seems more like WWE than motorsport as I know it, but I enjoyed it all the same. Well, not Tony Quinn's crash and injuries. Get well quick, Tony.

[Troy01505]

Antons pass was on, should've got the win!

[stevo qld]

I think there is a misconception that redressing can mitigate the crime. (The talking heads do confuse the viewers).

Time and time again we have seen drivers penalised even when they have redressed.

It seems to me that a bump and pass is forgiven if there is redressal.

But, it seems that where a driver crashes and turns another driver, a penalty is applied regardless.

In this case, I believe that car 11 would have received a time penalty regardless.

Tickford were probably unhappy that a 15 second penalty was not applied, or even longer.

Give me one example when someone redressed & still got a penalised, just one example will do!!

Joe, my post was clearly my opinion and I stand by it.

I totally reject your right to make demands of another member.

If you disagree, and it appears that you do, you could do your own research and support any contrary opinions that you may hold, if you require statistical proof.

I still believe that the redress scenario is perpetuated by historical drivers.

If I was to provide any historical statistics, then it would clearly be off topic in this thread.

However, I can categorically state that I am sure that any driver running second who punted the leader into a spin at Townsville 2022 received a time penalty imposed by officials who have read the current rule book and regulations.