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Re: F1 2021 Season
« Reply #105 on: December 07, 2021, 09:27:36 AM »
I'm worried that Verstappen has taken the Schumacher approach of "I'm ahead in the championship, so I'll win if my rival doesn't score". If Verstappen causes a crash that takes both drivers out of Abu Dhabi, therefore making him champion on countback, it will be very interesting to see what happens. I have a feeling the championship won't be decided until well after the chequered flag.

Going back to Silverstone, if Verstappen stayed wide at Copse and settled for second behind Hamilton, or challenged for the win later, he would be carrying at least an 18-point lead into the final race now. I see a lot of people bringing up Baku and Hungary, but Silverstone was the one incident where Verstappen lost points that he had some control over.
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Re: F1 2021 Season
« Reply #106 on: December 08, 2021, 01:33:10 PM »
I feel the same way. I think the race would be far better if Hamilton had a one point lead. Max has shown since Monza that as long as he has the championship lead (even by countback) he'll happily take them both off the track.
 

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Re: F1 2021 Season
« Reply #107 on: December 10, 2021, 08:36:05 PM »
just saw the Ferrari come out... looks like they have tried to Lewis proof the rear by putting the extra framework on the back ;)
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Re: F1 2021 Season
« Reply #108 on: December 12, 2021, 07:53:58 AM »
Well, we're all set for the showdown tomorrow morning. Verstappen on pole with Hamilton alongside, Max starting on softs and Lewis on mediums. Perez starting P4 and Bottas in P6.
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Re: F1 2021 Season
« Reply #109 on: December 12, 2021, 10:13:14 AM »
Can't wrap my head around Red Bull's tyre choice. Seems they're just expecting the softs to last a lot longer in the night conditions.
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Re: F1 2021 Season
« Reply #110 on: December 12, 2021, 10:37:19 AM »
Can't wrap my head around Red Bull's tyre choice. Seems they're just expecting the softs to last a lot longer in the night conditions.
Their hand was forced (with Max) when he flat spotted his Mediums in Q2, and they were the ones used on his quickest lap.

To beat Mercedes here, I thought beforehand they would have to do something different.  How did we say at Bathurst in the V8CFL, skaifeman?  Desperate men do desperate things.   ;D
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Re: F1 2021 Season
« Reply #111 on: December 12, 2021, 02:15:53 PM »
Well, we're all set for the showdown tomorrow morning. Verstappen on pole with Hamilton alongside, Max starting on softs and Lewis on mediums. Perez starting P4 and Bottas in P6.
I'm staying off social media and watching when i get home from work. 5am wake up Monday morning will not be fun if I am up until 2am watching race cars. Would be worth it, but not fun.

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Re: F1 2021 Season
« Reply #112 on: December 12, 2021, 02:19:05 PM »
Well, we're all set for the showdown tomorrow morning. Verstappen on pole with Hamilton alongside, Max starting on softs and Lewis on mediums. Perez starting P4 and Bottas in P6.
I'm staying off social media and watching when i get home from work. 5am wake up Monday morning will not be fun if I am up until 2am watching race cars. Would be worth it, but not fun.

I'm in the same boat Kenny. But work be damned!

@Mike, yeah I figured they could just bolt on a new set of mediums and go again? Obviously not. I'm not all over the amount of tyres given etc, so I'd say you're likely right.
I have no doubt Red Bull have a plan though.
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Re: F1 2021 Season
« Reply #113 on: December 12, 2021, 02:51:42 PM »
Well, we're all set for the showdown tomorrow morning. Verstappen on pole with Hamilton alongside, Max starting on softs and Lewis on mediums. Perez starting P4 and Bottas in P6.
I'm staying off social media and watching when i get home from work. 5am wake up Monday morning will not be fun if I am up until 2am watching race cars. Would be worth it, but not fun.

I'm in the same boat Kenny. But work be damned!

@Mike, yeah I figured they could just bolt on a new set of mediums and go again? Obviously not. I'm not all over the amount of tyres given etc, so I'd say you're likely right.
I have no doubt Red Bull have a plan though.
Over here, the green flag drops (five red lights out) at around 0800 hours.  I can catch it in my pajamas whilst drinking my morning joe.  What differences from each side of the planet as we spin around our Sun.

Red Bull will be quick out of the box, skaifey, but running softs on a full fuel load vice the Mercs running softs on a low load late.... Hell.... who knows WHAT might happen.  Opposite ends of the spectrum are going to meet and go through each other somewhere tomorrow!  This won't be a follow-the-leader caper for sure!
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Re: F1 2021 Season
« Reply #114 on: December 12, 2021, 03:31:59 PM »
seems there have been a reasonable amount of incidents again though at this event which have required barrier repair/red flags...

not how you want a title decider to happen (if one of them gets a free kick changing tyres under red flag) but it is certainly a possibility
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Re: F1 2021 Season
« Reply #115 on: December 13, 2021, 01:36:40 AM »
I know he doesn’t need it, but Max should go buy a lotto ticket. Nothing but luck.

It’s a season long though, well deserved. He had to beat the best.
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Re: F1 2021 Season
« Reply #116 on: December 13, 2021, 09:00:38 AM »
Regardless of who they support, I think everyone can agree that the officialdom have been woeful in F1 this year.

Not a great way to see the championship end, but I feel that the luck Verstappen had this morning balances out with some of the luck Hamilton had with red flags earlier in the season.
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Re: F1 2021 Season
« Reply #117 on: December 13, 2021, 01:40:18 PM »
Bloody good to see Mercedes Benz on the receiving end. Now they know how Liam Lawson felt after being on the receiving end of Mercedes Benz dirty tactics in the DTM. Couldn't happen to a "nicer" company

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Re: F1 2021 Season
« Reply #118 on: December 13, 2021, 09:43:41 PM »
What we saw was the ineptitude of race control and their inability to work well under pressure. Masi was stumbling over himself, clearly flustered on the radio and backtracked on his decisions before finally making a decision which broke their own regulation for the sake of creating some action to the major detriment of the dominant driver of the race. You can't have that kind of hesitation and lack of clarity in a policing position within the sport. Masi is not fit for the role.

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Re: F1 2021 Season
« Reply #119 on: December 14, 2021, 11:33:34 AM »
The Abu Dhabi jist:

Mercedes protested the result of the race after Verstappen passed Lewis Hamilton on the final lap, claiming the race shouldn’t have restarted for one lap as the order to let lapped cars overtake the safety car had only just been given. The regulations state the safety car should be called in at the end of the following lap, but the Mercedes protest was dismissed as the stewards felt the regulations give race director Michael Masi full control over the safety car and its withdrawal.

Shortly after the protest was dismissed, Mercedes served notice of its intention to appeal, something Horner says his team is ready for.

https://racer.com/2021/12/12/red-bull-will-fight-mercedes-appeal-horner/

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