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Round 1 - Newcastle Spoliers

Started by mikeamerica84, March 08, 2023, 02:06:48 PM

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AlbertM

Quote from: stp01 on March 12, 2023, 12:45:31 PM
Quote from: AlbertM on March 12, 2023, 12:02:31 PM
They weren't granted permission. If you want to relate it to the events of Bathurst 2019. They should be fined $250k on top of being excluded.
One was a breach of the technical rules, the other a breach of the 2019 ISC (Code of Good Conduct). Not the same thing.

Don't tell me. Tell Troy.  ::)
Ford Faithful

Brazen

First person to genuinely bend a Gen 3 car is Courtney

Ospif1

Will be another strategy race today but good to see Ford in the prime position for today.  The field generally gets out-played by T8 though so we'll see.  Unless of course T8 kick another own goal today.

AlbertM

Quote from: Ospif1 on March 12, 2023, 02:24:24 PM
Will be another strategy race today but good to see Ford in the prime position for today.  The field generally gets out-played by T8 though so we'll see.  Unless of course T8 kick another own goal today.
Called it.

Was a good race. What spoilt it (be ready to be surprised) was SVG bump and run on Mostert. Totally unnecessary. He's got the talent and a car to match. But still has to bully his way to the front.
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stevo qld

Quote from: stevo qld on March 11, 2023, 11:40:40 PM
Having read the following:
Quote...Teams are using two different driver cooling methods at the Newcastle Street circuit – conventional dry ice chilled water and air circulation or a sealed mini-aircon system.

At least half the field has adopted the ChillOut refrigeration unit pioneered in Supercars last year by Triple Eight and Erebus.

The sealed system uses refrigerated air to chill the water that circulates through the drivers' cool suits, worn under their fire-resistant apparel.

The existing ChillOut device can't supply cooled air to the drivers' helmets, unlike the dry ice boxes, which feed chilled air through a tube connected to a duct on the top of the helmets.

Driver "air conditioning" that does away with dry ice containers was part of the Gen3 plan from the start, but across-the-board adoption was delayed as Supercars' motor sport department grappled with more pressing technical concerns.

For the time being, teams have the option of sticking with their dry ice systems or adopting the ChillOut unit, which several teams have. ...
https://www.speedcafe.com/2023/03/11/supercars-plans-driver-cooling-change/

in particular, " the ChillOut refrigeration unit pioneered in Supercars last year by Triple Eight and Erebus. "

Having read that, i was interested to see 888 adding dry ice, apparently to the old system and not the Chillout. The occasions that I noticed, they added the dry ice through the Passengers side door.

The rule states
Quoterule states in its entirety:

C16.2 Driver Cooling System

16.2.1 Any Driver cooling system that contains a cooling medium must be:

16.2.1.1 mounted within the cockpit utilising the mounting points designated in the GSD for the passenger seat; and

16.2.1.2 constructed in a manner which to the satisfaction of the HoM, has been designed to ensure the safe containment of the entire system during reasonably foreseeable loading conditions
https://www.speedcafe.com/2023/03/11/stewards-deliberations-continue-over-triple-eight-protest/

From reading the rule, it seems to demand a particular location, but nothing to stop a pit crew from reaching over the driver from the driver's side door, although I only saw it through the passenger's door.


I await the results tomorrow, but judging by the remarks on posts, a few forumites will not be watching such an allegedly boring event.

CORRECTION:

AS per LG's advice and watching replays, I find that it was indeed the driver's door side. Once again. I was wrong.

My main focus, at that time, was why they needed dry ice when they used ChillOut.

ChillOut is clearly not the answer to Supercars uniform air-con plans.
Everybody is a genius, but if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing it is stupid.
ALBERT EINSTEIN

Ospif1

Not too pleased about SVG's move tbh, though Chaz did squeeze him into the wall when an overlap existed.  I think the result will stand.  Enjoyed that race a lot more than the 1st.

stp01

Quote from: stevo qld on March 12, 2023, 06:20:43 PM

My main focus, at that time, was why they needed dry ice when they used ChillOut.

ChillOut is clearly not the answer to Supercars uniform air-con plans.
They were running two systems - Chillout for the driver's body and dry ice for helmet cooling (the offending system). They couldn't source more Chillout units in time, otherwise they would have used them.

Triple Eight and Holden
2022 Supercars Drivers Champion
2022 Supercars Teams Champion
2022 Supercars Manufacturers Champion
2022 Super2 Drivers Champion

Joe5619

#82
As much as Shane is a dickhead, you can't deny his a cut above everyone else in the championship!

His move on Chaz was 50/50.. No need to penalty, let them race..

Such a shame about Cam, would have made the ending even better!!

What is going on at DJR???????

And are we watching the end of Percat's fulltime career?


Wrighty05

This might need a separate thread, but what annoyed me this weekend was the attitude to the press and their fans of both SVG and DJR.

DJR got the sulks yesterday and wouldn't comment to anyone and SVG today, obviously has the ****s about yesterday and maybe some GEN 3 stuff, but you have a duty to promote the sport and communicate with fans. Without them, you wouldn't earn a living doing it.

As for today, the SVG move was just on the right side of borderline, he did get a bit of a squeeze.

Cam can't make a mistake like that if he wants to win the title, that was a win for the taking. Percat is in deep trouble unless he can turn it around. Bit like Dan Ric in F1, his lack of form seems to be a mystery to his team and himself.

Premair and Erebus had good weekends. I really rate Golding, good to see him translate one lap pace into a result. And Grove are going to be a serious team moving forward

And DJR 🤮

bb

So Supercars, you spend years and $$$$ designing and implementing a new car........and end up with the same result.

Wouldn't it have been cheaper finding someone with balls to stand up to SVG!
:) ;D

Troy01505

Quote from: bb on March 12, 2023, 09:59:20 PM
So Supercars, you spend years and $$$$ designing and implementing a new car........and end up with the same result.

Wouldn't it have been cheaper finding someone with balls to stand up to SVG!
:) ;D

The cream will always rise to the top, best team and best driver has just shown that.

Maybewe need Penske and Scotty back to mix it up a little

AlbertM

Supercars made sure to run them out of town.
Ford Faithful

fordman

Quote from: Wrighty05 on March 12, 2023, 09:10:20 PM
This might need a separate thread, but what annoyed me this weekend was the attitude to the press and their fans of both SVG and DJR.

DJR got the sulks yesterday and wouldn't comment to anyone and SVG today, obviously has the ****s about yesterday and maybe some GEN 3 stuff, but you have a duty to promote the sport and communicate with fans. Without them, you wouldn't earn a living doing it.

As for today, the SVG move was just on the right side of borderline, he did get a bit of a squeeze.

Cam can't make a mistake like that if he wants to win the title, that was a win for the taking. Percat is in deep trouble unless he can turn it around. Bit like Dan Ric in F1, his lack of form seems to be a mystery to his team and himself.

Premair and Erebus had good weekends. I really rate Golding, good to see him translate one lap pace into a result. And Grove are going to be a serious team moving forward

And DJR 🤮

An article in speedcafe relates to some pressure being brought to bear of only speaking positively about Gen 3 seems reynolds and skaife had a bit of a disagreement about parity and reports of high up officials in SC applying pressure as well maybe thats why SVG was a bit quiet at the media conferences??

Wrighty05

Yeah I've since read this and have changed my mind on Shane!

Skaifey has to be careful with the amount of hats he's wearing

LG

Quote from: Joe5619 on March 12, 2023, 08:54:57 PM
As much as Shane is a dickhead, you can't deny his a cut above everyone else in the championship!

His move on Chaz was 50/50.. No need to penalty, let them race..

Such a shame about Cam, would have made the ending even better!!

What is going on at DJR???????

And are we watching the end of Percat's fulltime career?

The problem with that move is that it happens in various forms with monotonous regularity.
It's almost as though he can't pass a car without hitting it or dislodging it to get through.