ALP v LP/NP

[Trickyonne]

A lot of aussies think that Jacinta is an Australian politician

I was chatting to some kiwis recently who said that NZ are in a precarious position with there trade with China and getting dumped by the allied nations...is that your take on the situation?

[vipernz]

On face value it looks like we are sucking up to the Chinese and pissing off the mates we had... I did hear that Scott got rather verbal about it and put the boot in.. fair too

I say dont forget your mates... one day you will need them and it isn't like we can defend our own arses in these parts.

[AlbertM]

I just laugh at all the "China are bad" stuff.   Aussie Corporations and Government turned to China because it's cheaper. They turned to them to save them money and make bigger profit for themselves. The consumer wants everything for nothing and stopped supporting local manufacturing. China is not moving in on us, we are moving towards China.

As for our "mates"/"allied nations", they are doing the exact same thing.

Labor or LNP, left or right, Liberal or Conservative. trade with China is now inevitable.

[Troy01505]

I just laugh at all the "China are bad" stuff.   Aussie Corporations and Government turned to China because it's cheaper. They turned to them to save them money and make bigger profit for themselves. The consumer wants everything for nothing and stopped supporting local manufacturing. China is not moving in on us, we are moving towards China.

As for our "mates"/"allied nations", they are doing the exact same thing.

Labor or LNP, left or right, Liberal or Conservative. trade with China is now inevitable.

That’s right, we can’t blame one party for China taking over everything here or filling the country with cheap garbage products, this has been happening for over 20 years.

[AlbertM]

It's not China filling the country with cheap garbage. It's the Australian companies bringing it in. China manufacturing is good if not better than most other countries. It all depends on what you pay for what you want made and the quality control. We get garbage because they are asked to make garbage for the cheapest possible price.

[Trickyonne]

It's not China filling the country with cheap garbage. It's the Australian companies bringing it in. China manufacturing is good if not better than most other countries. It all depends on what you pay for what you want made and the quality control. We get garbage because they are asked to make garbage for the cheapest possible price.

ever driven an LDV ?
chinese manufacturing is terrible from worker benefits to quality, not to mention what they are doing to the enviroment...interesting the same people supporting us bowing down the communist are the same crying about the mystical global warming

[AlbertM]

You get what you pay for. LDV are half the price of some other makes.

The only way China is moving in is Australians are letting them in, our economy is linked to trade with China. LNP is big on free trade. That's the reality of it.

The ones complaining about China are also the ones supporting coal and ore mining. Both industries would collapse if China wasn't buying our resources. They are also the ones playing on peoples xenophobia and racism.

I got a laugh out of your concern for what China is doing to the environment only to go on to claim global warming is a myth. 

[Trickyonne]

Happy to hear that the very talented Peta Credlin has become a winner on the queens birthday list
Peta Credlin AO

[AlbertM]

Who?

[LG]

Credlin's award makes a mockery of the whole system.

[Trickyonne]

Credlin's award makes a mockery of the whole system.

WHY ?

[LG]

Well let's see...
She makes stuff up every night to put fear into our elderly people.
An Officer of the Order of Australia is usually a person of high regard who has been, or is still, outstanding in their field of expertise and does great things for Australia and possibly the world. Think Doctors and scientists who tackle horrible diseases and come up with solutions.
Credlin almost single handedly destroyed Tony Abbott and his party. Some may say that's a good thing but I would disagree. We desperately need strong politicians and parties on both sides of the divide.
She isolated Abbott from his party and his family and reshaped the Liberal Party into the absolute shemozzle it is today.
She allowed the rise of people such as Morrison and Dutton, both of whom have a lot to answer for.
She meddled in pre-selections ensuring that gays or gay supporters, equal marriage rights people and others were not able to be selected by the Liberals to run for parliament.

It's probably entirely her fault that the happy clappers are now running the country into the ground.

That's WHY!

[Trickyonne]

Well let's see...
She makes stuff up every night to put fear into our elderly people.
An Officer of the Order of Australia is usually a person of high regard who has been, or is still, outstanding in their field of expertise and does great things for Australia and possibly the world. Think Doctors and scientists who tackle horrible diseases and come up with solutions.
Credlin almost single handedly destroyed Tony Abbott and his party. Some may say that's a good thing but I would disagree. We desperately need strong politicians and parties on both sides of the divide.
She isolated Abbott from his party and his family and reshaped the Liberal Party into the absolute shemozzle it is today.
She allowed the rise of people such as Morrison and Dutton, both of whom have a lot to answer for.
She meddled in pre-selections ensuring that gays or gay supporters, equal marriage rights people and others were not able to be selected by the Liberals to run for parliament.

It's probably entirely her fault that the happy clappers are now running the country into the ground.

That's WHY!

What evidence do you have for any of that ?…surely if she did what you have accused her of doing, Tony Abbott would not be a close friend of hers ?
What does she make up every night ?

On a side note…the south Australian liberal government has just denied membership to some 500 Pentecostal Christians ….. is that what you want ?….

[AlbertM]

Better question is what has she done to make Australia a better place, worthy of an Order of OZ?

[LG]

Better question is what has she done to make Australia a better place, worthy of an Order of OZ?

That's a simple answer Albert.
Absolutely nothing.