COVID-19 discussion

[Trickyonne]

because 1 in 1million people in australia currently have the disease, yet the country is on lock down ?...90odd% of old age facilites are now vaccinated
1 person out of 25million is in ICU ... yet our country is locked down
take safe steps ?...totally....close the borders ?...dumb

Don't you think the reason only 1 person is in ICU is because we go into lockdowns to reduce the spread?  Only a hundred or so are infected, so of course the number of people gravely ill will be low.  What happens when we don't lock down and tens of thousands contract it?  Obviously the amount of people in hospital will then increase.

Old age homes only account for a small percentage of the high risk population, many more do not live in old age homes and hundreds of thousands more are in the high risk age brackets 60+ years old.

ok so, we should blanket ban motorcycles as their death/injury rate is way higher than COVID ??....as i said, safe steps all good..get vaccinated, but dont kill off buisness out of fear

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-29/sa-health-urges-coronavirus-vaccine-uptake-to-stave-off-lockdown/100252086

Your motorcycle example is irrelevant to the logic at hand here.

It's tough on businesses yes, however many people would prefer that to their loved ones dying and many would die in a full blown outbreak, as we've seen in many countries overseas.

i respect your opinion...but disagree

[djr18fan]

Australia stole Phar Lap, Pavlova, etc, but it appears we got back at you by stealing your label as the lucky country.

I'm amazed that no one in NZ has tested positive after an infectious Australian visited Wellington. While it seems that in Australia the virus loves you.

By the way, the last stats I saw showed that while Australia had a smaller percentage of population fully vaccinated, it had a higher proportion than NZ with one dose suggesting you've been vaccinating at a higher rate recently. You may overtake us soon in the fully vaccinated stats.

[Trickyonne]

Australia stole Phar Lap, Pavlova, etc, but it appears we got back at you by stealing your label as the lucky country.

I'm amazed that no one in NZ has tested positive after an infectious Australian visited Wellington. While it seems that in Australia the virus loves you.

By the way, the last stats I saw showed that while Australia had a smaller percentage of population fully vaccinated, it had a higher proportion than NZ with one dose suggesting you've been vaccinating at a higher rate recently. You may overtake us soon in the fully vaccinated stats.

we also have the highest number of Kiwis living here

[the undertaker]

I was meant to be flying to Melbourne today, to meet our first grandchild, but sindy decided to pull the pin until 11.30 tonight so that stuffed that 

[Trevor]

I don't know why you are bothering to argue with him, he will NEVER concede so you will never win. He will just some other irrelevant bull-**** into the argument.

Who ever told him about this new forum needs a kick in the arse IMHO

[AlbertM]

Unlike you. I actually do research. I took that from your favourite, Glady's herself, from her morning press conference.

Read this and educate yourself. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jun/28/the-delta-variant-has-rebooted-covid-so-australia-must-reboot-its-strategy

Your incompetent attitude is the type that lead to massive death toll in the US.

Imcompetent attitude ?...Im vaccinated, are you ?

Yep, incompetent attitude. It is oblivious to you through your posts how hopelessly out of touch with the pandemic you are. It's people like you that spread lies and disinformation about the situation. It's why we have lockdowns because people listen to the kind of tripe you peddle. Instead of trusting the experts. For example. You stated there is one in one million cases. There are 295 active cases, rising around 30 cases a day for the last week. Your bull**** has been debunked....And you said you learn from our "discussions"...LOL!!

I will be vaccinated. I saw my GP and for medical reasons he advised I take the Pfizer. Thanks to your MIA hero Morrison, there is a long waiting list as there is no supply of Pfizer or AZ in my area.

You love youtube clips... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3cPjWx603I

[Trickyonne]

Unlike you. I actually do research. I took that from your favourite, Glady's herself, from her morning press conference.

Read this and educate yourself. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jun/28/the-delta-variant-has-rebooted-covid-so-australia-must-reboot-its-strategy

Your incompetent attitude is the type that lead to massive death toll in the US.

Imcompetent attitude ?...Im vaccinated, are you ?

Yep, incompetent attitude. It is oblivious to you through your posts how hopelessly out of touch with the pandemic you are. It's people like you that spread lies and disinformation about the situation. It's why we have lockdowns because people listen to the kind of tripe you peddle. Instead of trusting the experts. For example. You stated there is one in one million cases. There are 295 active cases, rising around 30 cases a day for the last week. Your bull**** has been debunked....And you said you learn from our "discussions"...LOL!!

I will be vaccinated. I saw my GP and for medical reasons he advised I take the Pfizer. Thanks to your MIA hero Morrison, there is a long waiting list where I live.

That was an interesting little rant alby
So you would you have been happier for Scotty to have everyone vaccinated with a vaccine that wasn't yet proven ?....don't think so
That's why as he said and your little green mate Albo agreed to wait a little bit as we wernt/aren't in a desperate position like the rest of world .... thanks to scomo
Imagine is dictator Dan had a grasp on quarantine how much further down the track we would be ??

[AlbertM]

Morrison rejected Pfizer's offer of unlimited quantities when approved for use. Had nothing to do with Albo. (Albo's not a Green either but when have facts mattered to you).  You were obviously happy to take the "unproven" vaccine.

You are aware that NSW's latest outbreak is from a quarantine breach? And the cases already exceed Vic last outbreak.

Might help the conversation if you stop making stuff up.

[Trickyonne]

Morrison rejected Pfizer's offer of unlimited quantities when approved for use. Had nothing to do with Albo. (Albo's not a Green either but when have facts mattered to you).  You were obviously happy to take the "unproven" vaccine.

You are aware that NSW's latest outbreak is from a quarantine breach? And the cases already exceed Vic last outbreak.

Might help the conversation if stop making stuff up.

Ok champion.... You can believe the Henny Penny crap or the obvious facts
Doesn't bother me at all....I'm vaccinated from the nasty flu I'm good

[AlbertM]

Yeah it does. Otherwise you wouldn't be here on page 11.

[Trickyonne]

Yeah it does. Otherwise you wouldn't be here on page 11.

Ha good point......at least with all these lock downs your beloved hope of a socialist nation is looking good

[Ospif1]

I don't believe taking steps to prevent an uncontrollable outbreak that will kill people is a strictly socialist idea personally.  If we're not willing to take steps to reduce the chances our friends and families getting gravely ill or worse then we're nothing as a species.

[AlbertM]

Yep, it's heading that way under LNP governments lead by Scotty from marketing.

You rip on Dan when he locked down Vic for 20,000 cases of Covid. You support the LNP for locking down of...what did you say...1 in 1 million?

[LG]

PM & NSW Premier bag out Victoria for their lock-downs - zero cases in Victoria for the last 3 days

NSW doesn't do lock-down and as a result infects every State except Victoria, Tasmaina and S.A. - who is the smartest Government - Not NSW that's for sure

Barnaby leading by example.  https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-29/barnaby-joyce-fined-for-not-wearing-mask-in-nsw-covid-19-breach/100251944

Rules for thee and rules for me.

Nothing to do with rules for thee and me.
It's very easy to forget to put a mask on and somewhere like a fuel station.
I've done it and so have many people I know.
We've only had to wear masks for a 2 week period so it is not the norm for us.

[AlbertM]

Scotty from marketing is really looking out for us.   Making dodgy policy on the run without expert input 

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/29/some-gps-refuse-to-give-astrazeneca-jab-to-young-australians-eager-to-get-covid-vaccine