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Started by fordman, July 30, 2021, 08:13:34 AM

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Trevor

Make the race longer Bathurst 1500

Sonic

Quote from: Trevor on October 08, 2021, 11:10:01 AM
Make the race longer Bathurst 1500

Or a timed race. Make it the Bathurst 8 hour? AND make the driver split more even. 45/55
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skaifeman

Quote from: drivexby on October 08, 2021, 09:21:24 AM
As long as it doesn't end up with a time certain finish due to bad light or some other factor.  This race needs to be the full 161 laps.

I think, legally, this is one of the races that can't be time certain.
"Ford's Bathurst winning bonus didn't even cover the cost of the after-party" - Allan Moffat, 1977

36

Quote from: Trevor on October 08, 2021, 11:10:01 AM
Make the race longer Bathurst 1500

I don't mind this to be honest. It would make it more of an endurance event, and, open it up a bit from a strategy point of view. It does reduce the chance of a close finish.

But, there is too much history involved in the 1000 to change it. And I'm not sure Supercars would risk reducing the lustre of the 1000 by running a longer endurance event somewhere else.

In many ways, the 6 hour is what the 1000 used to be - just a bit shorter. Class racing etc.

I do like the idea of removing the number of compulsory pit stops as suggested by JPerkins.

skaifeman

Quote from: 36 on October 13, 2021, 11:18:45 AM
Quote from: Trevor on October 08, 2021, 11:10:01 AM
Make the race longer Bathurst 1500

I do like the idea of removing the number of compulsory pit stops as suggested by JPerkins.

Was this not brought in to help the Nissan's, who didn't have the fuel economy?
Easy rule to scrap...
"Ford's Bathurst winning bonus didn't even cover the cost of the after-party" - Allan Moffat, 1977

36

Quote from: skaifeman on October 13, 2021, 11:32:46 AM
Quote from: 36 on October 13, 2021, 11:18:45 AM
Quote from: Trevor on October 08, 2021, 11:10:01 AM
Make the race longer Bathurst 1500

I do like the idea of removing the number of compulsory pit stops as suggested by JPerkins.

Was this not brought in to help the Nissan's, who didn't have the fuel economy?
Easy rule to scrap...

Correct, and correct. Serves no purpose now, and just prevents team from trying to do a fuel saving strategy to save a pitstop.

Trevor

Quote from: 36 on October 13, 2021, 11:18:45 AM
It does reduce the chance of a close finish.
ahhh, no it won't, Supercars has a history of manipulating close finishes at Bathurst  ;D ;D

kennymiesta

Quote from: Trevor on October 08, 2021, 11:10:01 AM
Make the race longer Bathurst 1500
If you want a longer race, that's what the 12 hour is for. It should always remain the 1000. I know that it is getting shorter, but we are yet to crack under the 6 hour mark and with the fact that the new cars will be around 2 - 3 seconds a lap slower at the mountain, after next year I don't see that happening anyway.

stevo qld

It has been changed before. doubled in fact.
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Troy01505

Quote from: stevo qld on October 13, 2021, 08:03:41 PM
It has been changed before. doubled in fact.

When did it double? Race was once 500miles/804km and then changed to 621miles/1000km

stevo qld

Quote from: Troy01505 on October 13, 2021, 10:05:47 PM
Quote from: stevo qld on October 13, 2021, 08:03:41 PM
It has been changed before. doubled in fact.

When did it double? Race was once 500miles/804km and then changed to 621miles/1000km

You are right of course.

But, it did still increase.
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kennymiesta

Quote from: stevo qld on October 13, 2021, 10:12:06 PM
Quote from: Troy01505 on October 13, 2021, 10:05:47 PM
Quote from: stevo qld on October 13, 2021, 08:03:41 PM
It has been changed before. doubled in fact.

When did it double? Race was once 500miles/804km and then changed to 621miles/1000km

You are right of course.

But, it did still increase.
It only increased to come in line with the Metric system which Australia was heading towards. The Bathurst 804 doesn't quite have the same ring to it.

Roadways6

Supercars have happily trampled on 'tradition' in every way possible with their version of the 1000, extending it to a longer distance has no barrier of tradition infront of it.

They won't get rid of the minimum stops because they don't want drivers saving fuel. 7 stops minimum reduces the need for saving fuel so drivers will supposedly attack.

Makes it less of a traditional endurance race, but Supercars have never cared about that barrier.


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