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Started by Trevor, May 13, 2021, 04:42:48 PM

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Trevor

Might as well kick it off  :(

Trevor

Well, what a great socialist budget

vipernz

Ok, before you get 40 pages deep, yeah I remember the last effort on the old Forum... lol

What is the difference in layman's terms for us foreign folk. I haven't really got the gist of who is who in the Aussie sandpit. Might help better understand what you lot are going on about... (maybe)

Trevor

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Quote from: vipernz on May 13, 2021, 04:57:50 PM
Ok, before you get 40 pages deep, yeah I remember the last effort on the old Forum... lol

What is the difference in layman's terms for us foreign folk. I haven't really got the gist of who is who in the Aussie sandpit. Might help better understand what you lot are going on about... (maybe)
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Our Labor Party (ALP) is the same as your Labour Pary with Jacinta, the ALP leader is currently Anthony Albense (Albo)

Our Liberal Party (LP) is the current Government and is led by Scott Morrison, our current Prime Minister (aka ScoMo or Scotty from Marketing)

The National Party (NP) has had several names, they are in a coalition relationship with the LP, so they are in Government at the moment as well, they are 'supposed' to represent the interests of regional and remote Australians,who cares who they are led by, although he is Deputy Prime Minister

The Greens are the same as your Greens and no-one cares about them - they are irrelevant LOL

Sonic

Quote from: vipernz on May 13, 2021, 04:57:50 PM
Ok, before you get 40 pages deep, yeah I remember the last effort on the old Forum... lol

What is the difference in layman's terms for us foreign folk. I haven't really got the gist of who is who in the Aussie sandpit. Might help better understand what you lot are going on about... (maybe)

they are identical, just go about robbing you blind in different fashion is all :)
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Tickford8

Quote from: Trevor on May 13, 2021, 05:07:33 PM
Quote from: vipernz on May 13, 2021, 04:57:50 PM
Ok, before you get 40 pages deep, yeah I remember the last effort on the old Forum... lol

What is the difference in layman's terms for us foreign folk. I haven't really got the gist of who is who in the Aussie sandpit. Might help better understand what you lot are going on about... (maybe)
.

Our Labor Party (ALP) is the same as your Labour Pary with Jacinta, the ALP leader is currently Anthony Albense (Albo)

Our Liberal Party (LP) is the current Government and is led by Scott Morrison, our current Prime Minister (aka ScoMo or Scotty from Marketing)

The National Party (NP) has had several names, they are in a coalition relationship with the LP, so they are in Government at the moment as well, they are 'supposed' to represent the interests of regional and remote Australians,who cares who they are led by, although he is Deputy Prime Minister

The Greens are the same as your Greens and no-one cares about them - they are irrelevant LOL
Arent the Greens and Labor a coalition??  :)

Sonic

Quote from: Tickford8 on May 13, 2021, 07:08:03 PM
Quote from: Trevor on May 13, 2021, 05:07:33 PM
Quote from: vipernz on May 13, 2021, 04:57:50 PM
Ok, before you get 40 pages deep, yeah I remember the last effort on the old Forum... lol

What is the difference in layman's terms for us foreign folk. I haven't really got the gist of who is who in the Aussie sandpit. Might help better understand what you lot are going on about... (maybe)
.

Our Labor Party (ALP) is the same as your Labour Pary with Jacinta, the ALP leader is currently Anthony Albense (Albo)

Our Liberal Party (LP) is the current Government and is led by Scott Morrison, our current Prime Minister (aka ScoMo or Scotty from Marketing)

The National Party (NP) has had several names, they are in a coalition relationship with the LP, so they are in Government at the moment as well, they are 'supposed' to represent the interests of regional and remote Australians,who cares who they are led by, although he is Deputy Prime Minister

The Greens are the same as your Greens and no-one cares about them - they are irrelevant LOL
Arent the Greens and Labor a coalition??  :)

there will be no coalition under the government I lead... ;) :P LOL
philwisewould.zenfolio.com - check out the photos after race weekend!

Trevor

Quote from: Sonic on May 13, 2021, 07:37:46 PM
there will be no coalition under the government I lead... ;) :P LOL

OMG, can you tell me how many Greens were in the Lower House when that was said?  Remember the Lower House is where the Government sits, where it has control

Sonic

Quote from: Trevor on May 13, 2021, 10:11:01 PM
Quote from: Sonic on May 13, 2021, 07:37:46 PM
there will be no coalition under the government I lead... ;) :P LOL

OMG, can you tell me how many Greens were in the Lower House when that was said?  Remember the Lower House is where the Government sits, where it has control

So who introduced and approved it in the lower house then if it wasn't the gov that she 'led'? Bottom line remains that she was the one in the top seat at the time and bears responsibility for it!
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Trevor

Answer the question. How many Greens made up this alleged 'coalition' in the Lower House?

Sonic

Quote from: Trevor on May 14, 2021, 05:15:00 PM
Answer the question. How many Greens made up this alleged 'coalition' in the Lower House?

First up, I never said Greens anywhere. That is an assumption on your part Trev.

Next, google isn't very forthcoming in an answer to your question but from your tone I imagine you have an answer?

Julia made a deal with the devil (whoever they may have been) to form a minority government. That means she made a coalition government.

As simple as that.
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Trevor

the answer is ONE - the Greens made a big song and dance about it, the right media, fed by the Libs picked up on it and ran with it

One Google search and I go it - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Australian_federal_election

QuoteThe 2010 Australian federal election was held on Saturday, 21 August 2010 to elect members of the 43rd Parliament of Australia. The incumbent centre-left Australian Labor Party led by Prime Minister Julia Gillard won a second term against the opposition centre-right Liberal Party of Australia led by Opposition Leader Tony Abbott and Coalition partner the National Party of Australia, led by Warren Truss, after Labor formed a minority government with the support of three independent MPs and one Australian Greens MP


Trevor

Quote from: Sonic on May 14, 2021, 08:03:47 PM
First up, I never said Greens anywhere. That is an assumption on your part Trev.

the inference was there from the previous post, and to be truthful I actually thought the previous post was yours

Sonic

Quote from: Trevor on May 14, 2021, 10:11:04 PM
Quote from: Sonic on May 14, 2021, 08:03:47 PM
First up, I never said Greens anywhere. That is an assumption on your part Trev.

the inference was there from the previous post, and to be truthful I actually thought the previous post was yours

all good Trev. from my end it was simply a play on what JG said, I have no time for any side of politics. just like choosing cancer or a stroke to kill you.
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AlbertM

Gillards government wasn't a coalition. The 3 independants and one green agreed to maintain supply to Gillard ALP government. That made it possible for the ALP to form government.

The ALP had to negitiate with those 4 to get any new legislation passed. Gillard did it so well the ALP never lost a vote on the floor.

Other than both sides being political parties, they are not the same. They have very different policies and agendas.  One party thrives on this ignorence and it is why it has remained in power.
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