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Offline djr18fan

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Re: Gen 3
« Reply #60 on: June 04, 2021, 09:08:24 PM »
There will be no development of cars or engines according to this

https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/06/03/supercars-to-end-arms-race-with-gen3/

I find the story quite ironic really. They keep saying that they are reducing costs by making a lot of parts spec but at the same time trying to say there will still be plenty of things to chance for teams to make things interesting.

You are either making things spec or not. You can't have it both ways.

Of course you can. Control parts that are adjustable. Everyone has the same part with the same adjustability built into it. Like ride hide, anti roll bars, tyre pressures, camber, caster et.

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Re: Gen 3
« Reply #61 on: June 05, 2021, 06:03:36 AM »
give them one gearing setup to use for the year, stop them changing everything for every track they go to... make them adapt the driver rather than the car.

I change the diff between different hillclimbs! Let them change however they see fit, they'd all probably run the same anyway, but I don't know why there's a rule for specific ratio's at each track.

...and... GEN 3 POSTPONED:
https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/statement-regarding-gen3-timeline/

Mid-season? (August).
Mid season change in cars does seem a bit odd, no doubt there will be a mid season break in the calendar?

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Re: Gen 3
« Reply #62 on: June 05, 2021, 10:08:23 AM »
I seem to recall NASCAR doing something similar, with their COT? Poor planning IMO from Supercars but it is doable.

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Re: Gen 3
« Reply #63 on: June 05, 2021, 10:15:53 AM »
So they have finally admitted something that most people have been telling them for some time by delaying the intro.
At least Seamer has finally listened.

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Re: Gen 3
« Reply #64 on: June 05, 2021, 01:45:39 PM »
I don't like the idea of a mid-season intro... imagine a driver's title charge being de-railed by new car gremlins... pretty farcical

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Re: Gen 3
« Reply #65 on: June 05, 2021, 03:33:48 PM »
I don't like the idea of a mid-season intro... imagine a driver's title charge being de-railed by new car gremlins... pretty farcical

Yep, can just hear it now "I only lost because they changed the car mid season"

If it needs to be delayed, delay it until the next year.

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Re: Gen 3
« Reply #66 on: June 05, 2021, 10:44:20 PM »
It probably proves that they'll never switch to a summer series as if they were ever going to do it they now have a perfect opportunity

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Re: Gen 3
« Reply #67 on: June 06, 2021, 12:09:53 PM »
They would never do it anyway. Summer is to hot for some drivers to cope

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« Reply #68 on: June 06, 2021, 06:10:12 PM »
They’ve been throwing around summer series ideas for 25 years, the only people who were ever really interested in the summer series idea were were mid-90s Channel 7 management, and indeed the series started making a slight shift towards summer in 1996, before the black wiggle decided he knew what was best

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Re: Gen 3
« Reply #69 on: June 30, 2021, 03:36:55 PM »
It still confuses me how, the majority of drivers still want a gear stick:
https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/06/30/mclaughlin-heel-and-toe-part-of-the-art-of-supercars/

The fans also want a gear stick and no assisted shift:
https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/01/25/poll-the-heel-and-toe-in-supercars/

...yet Supercars insists on pursuing paddle shift.
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Re: Gen 3
« Reply #70 on: June 30, 2021, 07:19:15 PM »
The drivers and fans don't pay the bills.

Barry Ryan also made the interesting point on the V8 Sleuth podcast that the drivers are of course going to be protective of something that they are used to and skilled at, as it makes it harder for others to beat them.

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Re: Gen 3
« Reply #71 on: June 30, 2021, 09:45:07 PM »
The drivers and fans don't pay the bills.

Barry Ryan also made the interesting point on the V8 Sleuth podcast that the drivers are of course going to be protective of something that they are used to and skilled at, as it makes it harder for others to beat them.

Sounds like motorsport to me?
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Re: Gen 3
« Reply #72 on: July 03, 2021, 07:58:11 AM »
Heard a rumour from a major sponsor that over half the teams are committed to fighting to the finish to delay the next generation until 2023.

Maybe if we have anyone in the sport on here they can confirm or deny?

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Re: Gen 3
« Reply #73 on: July 03, 2021, 11:30:24 AM »
Heard a rumour from a major sponsor that over half the teams are committed to fighting to the finish to delay the next generation until 2023.

Maybe if we have anyone in the sport on here they can confirm or deny?
The way Gen 3 is going 2023 will be earliest anyway. 
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Re: Gen 3
« Reply #74 on: July 03, 2021, 05:17:30 PM »
Heard a rumour from a major sponsor that over half the teams are committed to fighting to the finish to delay the next generation until 2023.

Maybe if we have anyone in the sport on here they can confirm or deny?
The way Gen 3 is going 2023 will be earliest anyway.

Sounds about right with everyone have heard outside of the dribble from the Supercars management themselves