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Started by Trevor, May 13, 2021, 04:42:48 PM

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fordman

The reason we are still in lockdown in Sydney is because of people 😌
Before we get too hung up on blaming the state govt, or the federal govt, or China for our covid situation let's review some facts about the last 18 months in Australia :
1. We had to bring in mandatory quarantining in hotels, because we couldn't trust people to stay home after returning from overseas.
2. We then had to bring in security, because we couldn't trust people to stay in those hotels.
3. We then had to bring in ADF, because we couldn't trust the security guards not to have sex with those in quarantine in the hotels.
4. We had to get police to door knock and check up on people, because we couldnt trust those who were meant to be self-isolating to actually stay at home.
5. We also have to have police and ADF reinforce the metropolitan melb zone and now Sydney and state borders, because we can't trust people to follow the restrictions.
6. We are now being asked to use masks, because we cannot trust people to social distance when they are in public.
7. Through it all, our supermarkets have had to introduce shopping restrictions because we couldn't trust people not to take more than what they needed.
8. In Sydney they've had to close down streets, suburbs and freeways with army trucks because people can't be trusted to stay at home. Instead they want to go to beach parties in Newcastle.
So we can get as mad as we want at politicians or health officials for imposing restrictions, or the country where the virus originated, but essentially it's our own fault that we find ourselves here.
Selfishness, entitlement and a lack of empathy seems to be as much of a disease as covid itself in Australia.
The quicker people start following directions, the quicker this situation will improve and our businesses can start to grow again. 🙏🏼

AlbertM

#121
That had to come from a government spin doctor. haha.   

This is not a chicken or the egg paradox. If the Government acted quickly, the people wouldn't be breaking the rules.
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Zac

Quote from: AlbertM on August 15, 2021, 07:29:55 PM
If the Government acted quickly, the people wouldn't be breaking the rules.
No, there are always people breaking the rules no matter what. It's only the numbers you can argue about - and only if you like hypotheticals.

Ospif1

Quote from: fordman on August 15, 2021, 06:14:30 PM

Listening to Chairman Dan tonight he is mirroring what NSW is saying that their constituents are still ignoring the rules  >:(
It's all about attitude.  You can't expect the public to take it seriously when the government didn't.  There's no difference between the people in NSW and the people in QLD, and yet in QLD it was taken more seriously and people acted in a manner to reduce the spread quickly.  That's how leadership works, and NSW failed abysmally in this regard.

AlbertM

Quote from: Zac on August 15, 2021, 07:56:26 PM
Quote from: AlbertM on August 15, 2021, 07:29:55 PM
If the Government acted quickly, the people wouldn't be breaking the rules.
No, there are always people breaking the rules no matter what. It's only the numbers you can argue about - and only if you like hypotheticals.
Hey! Zac is back from sulking.

Seems people in the other states can follow the rules.

Is it people breaking the rules because they are just selfish?  Or is it because the rules for what is considered essential are clear as mud?  Coupled with no financial support, people have had to go to work to make a living. Crikey, that explains why the workplace has been the main source of infection.

You like youtube videos. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxA7ELY9O7M  Glady's saying don't cancel your plans, nothing to see here. 7 weeks and 6000 cases later, Glady's said 450 cases in one day is a "wake up call".

Pulling vaccines from regional areas right before an outbreak was a freakin' master stroke as well.


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fordman

#125
Quote from: AlbertM on August 15, 2021, 10:43:01 PM
Quote from: Zac on August 15, 2021, 07:56:26 PM
Quote from: AlbertM on August 15, 2021, 07:29:55 PM
If the Government acted quickly, the people wouldn't be breaking the rules.
No, there are always people breaking the rules no matter what. It's only the numbers you can argue about - and only if you like hypotheticals.
Hey! Zac is back from sulking.

Seems people in the other states can follow the rules.

Is it people breaking the rules because they are just selfish?  Or is it because the rules for what is considered essential are clear as mud?  Coupled with no financial support, people have had to go to work to make a living. Crikey, that explains why the workplace has been the main source of infection.

You like youtube videos. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxA7ELY9O7M  Glady's saying don't cancel your plans, nothing to see here. 7 weeks and 6000 cases later, Glady's said 450 cases in one day is a "wake up call".

Pulling vaccines from regional areas right before an outbreak was a freakin' master stroke as well.

BS there is plenty of financial help, 750/week $320 to stay at home after a test, thousands for businesses. essential businesses will always be a source of transmission do we close supermarkets???

Chairman Dan just yesterday had a shot at his own state fr not following rules as they are still getting cases where no known source QLD Premier did the same as vision showed nearly no one wering masks in areas they were supposed to be.

look at what caused the spread in NSWregions IDIOTS not following the rules, simple rules really for the most part.

As for looking after year 12 students by re-allocating vaxs and those against it just shows how selfish some have become.


Zac

#126
Yep, the first item I saw on my news feed this morning was "Victoria cracking down on Covid breaches".

Sulking :). So that's what Albert does when he doesn't post for months - and now he's making lots of noise, signifying nothing, making up for the posts he didn't make. He needs Trickyonne back to really get his count up. At least Tricky can quibble on Albert's level.

Trevor

#127
Quote from: fordman on August 16, 2021, 05:53:26 AM
BS there is plenty of financial help, 750/week $320 to stay at home after a test, thousands for businesses. essential businesses will always be a source of transmission do we close supermarkets???

Chairman Dan just yesterday had a shot at his own state fr not following rules as they are still getting cases where no known source QLD Premier did the same as vision showed nearly no one wering masks in areas they were supposed to be.

look at what caused the spread in NSWregions IDIOTS not following the rules, simple rules really for the most part.

As for looking after year 12 students by re-allocating vaxs and those against it just shows how selfish some have become.
You may call Dan Andrews "Chairman Dan", what do we call Gladys Berejiklian?  "Gladys the Sloth", maybe "Socialist Gladys" or maybe "ScoMo's Gerry Gee"?  You can ScoMo's hand up her arse making her lips move

Her Governments inability to make the tough decisions is about to cripple the country - did she learn from Victoria's mistakes NO - her ****ing ego is to big for that - this is the end of her politicial career, next election, she and her pissant Government will be goooonnnneee
I am sick of nit-pickers, looking for mischief where there is none

PHARK IT!!!!!

Trevor

I am sick of nit-pickers, looking for mischief where there is none

PHARK IT!!!!!

fordman

Quote from: Trevor on August 16, 2021, 07:26:35 AM
Quote from: fordman on August 16, 2021, 05:53:26 AM
BS there is plenty of financial help, 750/week $320 to stay at home after a test, thousands for businesses. essential businesses will always be a source of transmission do we close supermarkets???

Chairman Dan just yesterday had a shot at his own state fr not following rules as they are still getting cases where no known source QLD Premier did the same as vision showed nearly no one wering masks in areas they were supposed to be.

look at what caused the spread in NSWregions IDIOTS not following the rules, simple rules really for the most part.

As for looking after year 12 students by re-allocating vaxs and those against it just shows how selfish some have become.
You may call Dan Andrews "Chairman Dan", what do we call Gladys Berejiklian?  "Gladys the Sloth", maybe "Socialist Gladys" or maybe "ScoMo's Gerry Gee"?  You can ScoMo's hand up her arse making her lips move

Her Governments inability to make the tough decisions is about to cripple the country - did she learn from Victoria's mistakes NO - her ****ing ego is to big for that - this is the end of her politicial career, next election, she and her pissant Government will be goooonnnneee

learn from Vic who are in lockdown #6 and overseen 800 deaths directly attributed to Vic Premier who is yet to accept the blame, he is also GOOOONEEEE next year. look closer even Vic ppl are still not following the rules ie the recent engagement party he sholdn't be throwing knives when he too cannot control his ppl.

Plenty of Monday Morning quarterbacks getting around.

Trevor

#130
Quote from: fordman on August 16, 2021, 07:39:10 AM
learn from Vic who are in lockdown #6 and overseen 800 deaths directly attributed to Vic Premier who is yet to accept the blame, he is also GOOOONEEEE next year. look closer even Vic ppl are still not following the rules ie the recent engagement party he sholdn't be throwing knives when he too cannot control his ppl.

Plenty of Monday Morning quarterbacks getting around.

That's right, how much vaccine was around this time last year?

Who else had gone through what Victoria did at the time?

What were the failures? Quarantine - FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ISSUE, Aged Care - FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ISSUE. The Victorian Government stepped in to Aged Care due to a HUGE failure of FEDERAL GOVERNMENT systems, that was AFTER most had died.

Same as quarantine, at the first State/Feds get together last year, Morrison said they don't have the resources to quarantine international travelers so the State Governments stepped into that space as the Feds were Missing in Action AGAIN

Explain WHY the international border was allowed to stay open from January 2020?

Explain WHY there wasn't proper systems in aged care?

Neither of which are State issues

I have heard ramblings like yours before and it is shyte and you know it
I am sick of nit-pickers, looking for mischief where there is none

PHARK IT!!!!!

AlbertM

#131
Quote from: fordman on August 16, 2021, 05:53:26 AM
BS there is plenty of financial help, 750/week $320 to stay at home after a test, thousands for businesses. essential businesses will always be a source of transmission do we close supermarkets???

Chairman Dan just yesterday had a shot at his own state fr not following rules as they are still getting cases where no known source QLD Premier did the same as vision showed nearly no one wering masks in areas they were supposed to be.

look at what caused the spread in NSWregions IDIOTS not following the rules, simple rules really for the most part.

As for looking after year 12 students by re-allocating vaxs and those against it just shows how selfish some have become.

Financial help only just kicked in in the last couple of weeks.

Is it not selfish pulling vaccines from the regional community that doesn't have the health service capacity to deal with an outbreak? The vaccine was allocated,  people had appointments booked. The plan to have year 12 students to sit for exam fell over with in days of announcing it anyway.

There will be people breaking the rules. But that does excuse the gross mishandeling of the situation by the NSW government. The regional outbreak is a direct result of the department of corrections releasing a person before confirming his covid status.


Oh and Zac. Unlike you I didn't go away angry, I just went away.  As for post count, you've spent most of yours quibbling about me.  ;D
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Zac

"No prizes for 2nd" - or 1st.

AlbertM

Recycled jibes are so fun aren't they. That's a problem with lockdown,  can't go out to get new ones. ;D
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Sonic

:'( 2 more weeks plus curfew in Melb
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