COVID-19 discussion

[AlbertM]

So, would you rather we didn't have them?

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But: 500,000 will surely help the vaccine snobs and those with medical reasons.

Missed the part where I said "It helps..."? Because they were the first two words of my reply. Several million doses would be "a lot".

It is not snobbery when the health advice is recommending over half the population take mRNA vaccines.  People in regional areas have underlying health issues too that limits them from taking AZ. The governments screwed up the health advice over AZ, confused so many and they wonder why there is hesitancy. AZ is to be phased out in the next couple of months when Moderna and more Pfizer arrive.

Dictator Dan is right to scoff. It is a failure of the Morrison government to secure enough vaccine earlier. Now we are scrapping up what ever left overs there are, getting it in dribs and drabs when it is a race to get people vaccinated before everyone catches Covid.

[CP]

There are some great points raised in this piece:

https://borismihailovic.com/covid-in-wilcannia-what-will-it-take-to-infuriate-you/

[Trevor]

A few people died and, recently, most were in their 80's, and that is a shame, if they indeed died solely of Covid-19.

Fact if life: people in their 80's are often on borrowed time and it is convenient for Doctors to simply blame Covid-19 for death instead of the many, many. many, many other health complications out there.

This also applies even to people who have exceeded their four score and ten years on this planet.

On the previous incantation of this Forum, it was fashionable for Millennials (whatever that means) to whinge and whine about how privileged Boomers are.

Very shortly many Boomers are on the way out and our $millions of property and Superannuation will pass on down the line. We cannot take it with us.

So much for hubris:

The fact is that even though elderly people are allegedly dying of Covid-19, there are actually less elderly people in Nursing Homes, in total, dying than in pre Covid-19 times.

Millennials will just have to wait a little longer for their windfall.

Maybe that is a factor in the considerable opposition to prioritising vaccinations to over 70's, in Stage 1b,

Guess who is spreading the disease to 'boomers' - well no need to guess

https://www.health.gov.au/resources/covid-19-cases-by-age-group-and-sex

Just show what a disrespectful pack of bastards 'they' are - they couldn't give a **** about anyone except themselves

[AlbertM]

Soul crushing for Victoria.  Put in the most work to keep covid at bay. Only to be undermined by Gladys and Scomo.

[Trevor]

we had a rise here to 13 today, but apparently all as a result of Day 13 testing, all were supposed to be quarantining so it should be OK

[Sonic]

There are some great points raised in this piece:

https://borismihailovic.com/covid-in-wilcannia-what-will-it-take-to-infuriate-you/

Boris is certainly an angry lad. Perhaps he could work on his communication skills a bit though.

I know a little of Wilcannia as my missus was doing yearly trips out there heading up a group working with the locals til all the lockdowns started. Like any people with low immunities it will hit them hard

Have to wonder if any jab would be of any use to them anyway or if that would do them just as much to ruin their health as catching the bug. You have to wonder how the hell c19 even got out there? Must have hitched a ride on a road train and then a kangaroo for the next 200km. If they do have it then it was imported somehow which makes it even sadder that someone has taken this to these great people.

Can only pray it doesn't decimate them

[Trevor]

It is not a 'jab' anymore, Scotty from Marketing has called it a 'dose of hope' and the media love him for it - FFS!!!!!! does this **** actually get it?

Sorry, you will need Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?ref=search&v=585413159135563&external_log_id=0fa613ef-0e8a-43b4-bbc0-4bc63c7d0ddf&q=media%20bites

[Troy01505]

It is not a 'jab' anymore, Scotty from Marketing has called it a 'dose of hope' and the media love him for it - FFS!!!!!! does this **** actually get it?

Sorry, you will need Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?ref=search&v=585413159135563&external_log_id=0fa613ef-0e8a-43b4-bbc0-4bc63c7d0ddf&q=media%20bites

Well if changing tactics helps gets us out of this abortion what's the problem?

[Troy01505]

A few people died and, recently, most were in their 80's, and that is a shame, if they indeed died solely of Covid-19.

Fact if life: people in their 80's are often on borrowed time and it is convenient for Doctors to simply blame Covid-19 for death instead of the many, many. many, many other health complications out there.

This also applies even to people who have exceeded their four score and ten years on this planet.

On the previous incantation of this Forum, it was fashionable for Millennials (whatever that means) to whinge and whine about how privileged Boomers are.

Very shortly many Boomers are on the way out and our $millions of property and Superannuation will pass on down the line. We cannot take it with us.

So much for hubris:

The fact is that even though elderly people are allegedly dying of Covid-19, there are actually less elderly people in Nursing Homes, in total, dying than in pre Covid-19 times.

Millennials will just have to wait a little longer for their windfall.

Maybe that is a factor in the considerable opposition to prioritising vaccinations to over 70's, in Stage 1b,

Guess who is spreading the disease to 'boomers' - well no need to guess

https://www.health.gov.au/resources/covid-19-cases-by-age-group-and-sex

Just show what a disrespectful pack of bastards 'they' are - they couldn't give a **** about anyone except themselves

20-50 year olds make up a large percentage of our workforce and also family homes that generally have more members per household. It is no surprise that this age bracket with more in the home and workforce lead to a higher number of cases. It's the most active group of people needing "essential" services.

In saying that, I went to a supermarket last night and I walked straight back out. Just after 9pm and it was jam packed with all ages. Some masks, some without, no social distancing, workers with masks on their chins etc!

[Trevor]

Well if changing tactics helps gets us out of this abortion what's the problem?

nah, just more spin-doctoring bull-**** from a totally inept Government - it is called "diverting our view"

[meha]

In saying that, I went to a supermarket last night and I walked straight back out. Just after 9pm and it was jam packed with all ages. Some masks, some without, no social distancing, workers with masks on their chins etc!

And that is exactly why the spread keeps happening, people are either too complacent, or just don't care about anyone but themselves. 

[AlbertM]

https://youtu.be/5aX45NwZ1YE

While I hesitate to share anything from ACA. Here is a message for the anti-vaxers.

[Trevor]

Vict Gvmt is going to upset the anti-vaxxers big time

They are going to trial letting vaccinated people do stuff anti-vaxxers (or reluctant vaxxers) can't do.  From what I heard it is just a trial for when we hit 80% double dose


Go for it, bloody great idea - why should the vaccinated be held to ransom by the anti-vaxxers or the reluctant vaxxers

[stevo qld]

Another 4 million vaccines arrive from tomorrow. The Feds are doing some good negotiations with other countries.

Yet, that Socialist Champion of the USA and "Leader of the Free World", Mr Biden (reportedly letting 15 million doses go to waste) would not do a similar deal with their great ally Australia.

Australia has secured another 4 million doses of the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine in a deal with the UK.

Prime Minister Scott Morrison said shipments would arrive in Australia in the coming days and weeks.

"The plane is on the tarmac now. It will be leaving tomorrow," Mr Morrison said.

"Those doses will be coming over the course of the next few weeks, which will see us double the Pfizer doses that we have during September."

It is the second deal Australia has struck with another country this week to receive Pfizer doses.

Earlier Singapore agreed to send 500,000 doses that are about to expire.

Health Minister Greg Hunt said Australia would have "well over" 10 million vaccine doses available this month.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-03/covid-19-vaccine-swap-pfizer-four-million-doses-from-uk/100431828

The United States has thrown away at least 15.1 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines since March 1, a report by NBC News has shown

https://news.az/news/us-wastes-15-million-covid-19-vaccine-doses-since-march-report

[AlbertM]

It would be beneficial for people to actually read the news articles they link, before sharing their uninformed opinion.