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Started by skaifeman, May 14, 2021, 11:20:22 PM

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mikeamerica84

Quote from: Sonic on September 02, 2021, 03:58:41 PM
Quote from: meha on September 02, 2021, 10:07:36 AM
In other news Kimi has formally announced his retirement at the end of this season.

The musical chairs is about to start with Bottas likely to take his seat and Russell moving to join Hamilton.

Quite looking forward to a Lewis vs George... seeing who gets some 'privilege' and who can race.
You know, if this comes full circle as we all are expecting it to, we'll have two Brits battling it out.  When was the last time we had a top shelf F1 team with two of the same countrymen going at it?

Kye..... your stat knowledge is being asked here.   ;D
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Sonic

Quote from: mikeamerica84 on September 02, 2021, 06:07:40 PM
Quote from: Sonic on September 02, 2021, 03:58:41 PM
Quote from: meha on September 02, 2021, 10:07:36 AM
In other news Kimi has formally announced his retirement at the end of this season.

The musical chairs is about to start with Bottas likely to take his seat and Russell moving to join Hamilton.

Quite looking forward to a Lewis vs George... seeing who gets some 'privilege' and who can race.
You know, if this comes full circle as we all are expecting it to, we'll have two Brits battling it out.  When was the last time we had a top shelf F1 team with two of the same countrymen going at it?

Kye..... your stat knowledge is being asked here.   ;D

Hill/Mansell? At least for the Brits is the last that comes to mind
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skaifeman

Hamilton and Button when McLaren were top shelf-ish.
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meha

That or Hill/Coulthard in 1995 maybe.....

Sonic

Quote from: meha on September 03, 2021, 09:40:26 AM
That or Hill/Coulthard in 1995 maybe.....

Wouldn't that be Brit/Scot?
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Sonic

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stp01

Quote from: Sonic on September 04, 2021, 09:37:03 PM
Quote from: stp01 on September 04, 2021, 06:04:49 PM
Quote from: Sonic on September 03, 2021, 01:11:37 PM
Quote from: meha on September 03, 2021, 09:40:26 AM
That or Hill/Coulthard in 1995 maybe.....

Wouldn't that be Brit/Scot?
Scots are British.

and Kiwis are Australian ;) :P
Riiiiiiight.....

Anyway, shocker for Perez in Qual, track evolution in Q1 was crazy. Shame Danny couldn't replicate his Q2 performance in Q3. Don't think I'll stay up for this one, Verstappen will run off into the distance and I doubt there'll be much passing behind.


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Sonic

dunno STP... with all the mistakes being made over the first 2 days in all of the categories it could go either way.

could be some desperate moves being made... the banking could bring something different to the result... loving that there is actually a penalty to a driver who can't stay within the painted lines for one event!

will at least watch the start and see how it looks.
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Kytabu

If the Mercedes can stay close to Verstappen they can work the strategy against Red Bull, unless Bottas falls too far behind early on for the undercut to be effective. If Gasly or the Ferraris can stay within a pitstop of the leaders it will be interesting to see how Red Bull and Mercedes play the strategy.

Great job by Giovinazzi in qually, hopefully he has a decent race.
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skaifeman

Quote from: Kytabu on September 05, 2021, 03:09:14 PM
If the Mercedes can stay close to Verstappen they can work the strategy against Red Bull, unless Bottas falls too far behind early on for the undercut to be effective. If Gasly or the Ferraris can stay within a pitstop of the leaders it will be interesting to see how Red Bull and Mercedes play the strategy.


That was the plan. Bottas couldn't stay close enough to truly challenge through strategy.

Wasn't a bad race, lots of following, but the two guys at the front were racing hard. Zandvoort is a fantastic track, mesmerising watching the in-car following another driver.
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stp01

Well, I did fall asleep, but mainly due to lack of sleep!  The track is amazing, but passing opportunities were limited as expected. The Haas boys were at it as always!
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skaifeman

Our boy is back. Owned it.
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Sonic

Quote from: skaifeman on September 13, 2021, 12:55:04 AM
Our boy is back. Owned it.

Now that was one hell of a race!

Danny earned it for sure, led from the start so even though those who may have challenged dropped out he had their measure from the get go.

Interesting bingle for LH/MV and that the stewards landed the penalty on Max. Lewis ran Max off track at t1 entry and then didn't allow room at t2 entry. You make the opposition earn the pass but he did run him off track in 2 corners so not sure how he could be upset that there was contact when, for mine, he was the cause. Would love to hear more from the stewards how they came to that decision.

McLaren 1/2 and 3 shooies on the podium :) a good day for Aussies! (with also a win in F2)
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Sonic

taken from speedcafe page - https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/09/13/verstappen-penalised-for-hamilton-clash/

Stewards' decision in full

The Stewards heard from the driver of car 33 (Max Verstappen), the driver of car 44 (Lewis Hamilton) and team representatives, reviewed the video evidence and determined that the driver of Car 33 was predominantly to blame for the collision with Car 44 at Turn 2.

Car 44 was exiting the pits. Car 33 was on the main straight. At the 50m board before Turn 1, Car 44 was significantly ahead of Car 33. Car 33 braked late and started to move alongside Car 44, although at no point in the sequence does Car 33 get any further forward than just behind the front wheel of Car 44.

During the hearing the driver of Car 33 asserted that the cause of the incident was the driver of Car 44 opening the steering after Turn 1 and "squeezing" him to the apex of turn 2. The driver of Car 44 asserted that the driver of Car 33 attempted to pass very late and should have given up the corner either by backing off sooner, or by turning left behind the kerb.

The Stewards observed on CCTV footage that the driver of Car 44 was driving an avoiding line, although his position caused Car 33 to go onto the kerb. But further, the Stewards observed that Car 33 was not at all alongside Car 44 until significantly into the entry into Turn 1. In the opinion of the Stewards, this manoeuvre was attempted too late for the driver of Car 33 to have "the right to racing room". While Car 44 could have steered further from the kerb to avoid the incident, the Stewards determined that his position was reasonable and therefore find that the driver of Car 33 was predominantly to blame for the incident.

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they make the point that Max braked late... of course he did, he was at full race pace having just belted down the full straight so he would be braking from 300+... LH just out of the pits would have had a substantially lower speed when he hit the anchors.

guess they have just decided that it is ok to run drivers off the road if they are only alongside you in F1 now... sheesh...
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