Silly Season 2022

[SetonFan]

Percat leaving BJR as well

Article now up; https://autoaction.com.au/2021/09/09/exclusive-percat-quits-brad-jones-racing

Dominoes are falling over now!

[skaifeman]

Silly Season indeed.

This article suggests multiple 'sources' say Fullwood is a done deal at Tickford:
https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/09/09/fullwood-responds-to-talk-of-tickford-done-deal/?fbclid=IwAR3wWApMgNNvik0wHi3M8ncFhAJt3a62ydVSmmBGYRPTpspR84fAkvsOOBM

Percat back to Walkinshaw? I'd be happy with that.

I think Percat is totally ensconced at BJR.

My thoughts too. Heimgartner coming over may have changed that?
Percat has a soft spot for Walkinshaw - and they too him.

Update: Auto Action breaking it
https://autoaction.com.au/2021/09/09/exclusive-percat-quits-brad-jones-racing?fbclid=IwAR16U_9RXfGdasrqQKUdFKCuw2_74z9kwXQiIVG64rfT2BiTBui_VCRLD4Q

[stevo qld]

As David Reynolds has proven time and time again with multiple teams, contracts are not worth the dunny paper he draped all over Rick Kelly's desk back in the day.  Team owners know that there is no gain in holding a driver to a Contract if he/she does not want to drive for them.

Wherever the chips fall, good luck to all the teams and drivers in 2002.

This is increasingly the time of pay drivers in Supercars, i.e. Daddy's money or an associated Sponsor's money, or even your own money if one runs a company or porno type website.  Some teams absolutely need pay drivers.

Tough luck to the drivers hoping to advance based on talent.

When the music stops in the game of musical chairs, Jack Le Brocq looks like the one left standing in the corner.

Macauley might fall on his sword for the sake of the company and run Super 2. Hazelwood is still a chance, or at least a few wildcards and an endurance ride with MSR or BJR. (Remember that MSR only own a single REC at last announcement, with the second on loan from a Hazelwood supporter.)

There are a couple of other drivers lurking in the background, such as Kurt Kostecki, Chris Pither and Renee Gracie (with family money, sponsor money or personal money too.)

P.S. BJR has had a big win. Getting Heimgartner and losing Whatsisname. ( Ah! yes, just remembered Percat.)

[madbugger]

As David Reynolds has proven time and time again with multiple teams, contracts are not worth the dunny paper he draped all over Rick Kelly's desk back in the day.  Team owners know that there is no gain in holding a driver to a Contract if he/she does not want to drive for them.

Wherever the chips fall, good luck to all the teams and drivers in 2002.

This is increasingly the time of pay drivers in Supercars, i.e. Daddy's money or an associated Sponsor's money, or even your own money if one runs a company or porno type website.  Some teams absolutely need pay drivers.

Tough luck to the drivers hoping to advance based on talent.

When the music stops in the game of musical chairs, Jack Le Brocq looks like the one left standing in the corner.

Macauley might fall on his sword for the sake of the company and run Super 2. Hazelwood is still a chance, or at least a few wildcards and an endurance ride with MSR or BJR. (Remember that MSR only own a single REC at last announcement, with the second on loan from a Hazelwood supporter.)

There are a couple of other drivers lurking in the background, such as Kurt Kostecki, Chris Pither and Renee Gracie (with family money, sponsor money or personal money too.)

P.S. BJR has had a big win. Getting Heimgartner and losing Whatsisname. ( Ah! yes, just remembered Percat.)

The whole contract thing is a big farce. Teams (Employers) if they sack a player/driver (employee) generally have to pay out the existing contract, but if a player/driver (employee) chooses to leave and go to a competitor, they generally get their way with no compensation going back to their previous employer. Just once I'd like to see an employer dig their heels in and and call to account those that want to break their contract.

Alternatively, if employees want to continue being able to to walk before completing contract then employers should have the option of terminating an employee before contract is finished with no compensation payable.

[LG]

Silly Season indeed.

This article suggests multiple 'sources' say Fullwood is a done deal at Tickford:
https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/09/09/fullwood-responds-to-talk-of-tickford-done-deal/?fbclid=IwAR3wWApMgNNvik0wHi3M8ncFhAJt3a62ydVSmmBGYRPTpspR84fAkvsOOBM

Percat back to Walkinshaw? I'd be happy with that.

I think Percat is totally ensconced at BJR.

My thoughts too. Heimgartner coming over may have changed that?
Percat has a soft spot for Walkinshaw - and they too him.

Update: Auto Action breaking it
https://autoaction.com.au/2021/09/09/exclusive-percat-quits-brad-jones-racing?fbclid=IwAR16U_9RXfGdasrqQKUdFKCuw2_74z9kwXQiIVG64rfT2BiTBui_VCRLD4Q

I got that well and truly wrong...   

[AlbertM]

Thought from left field...

Speaking of broken contracts. Was it a ploy by drivers to make themselves available for the 88 seat?

[Troy01505]

Grove made a mistake, should have gave Davey the ass.

Holdsworth has had his chances, needs to stay out of a full time gig and let someone with actual potential fill the seat.

[skaifeman]

Grove made a mistake, should have gave Davey the ass.

Holdsworth has had his chances, needs to stay out of a full time gig and let someone with actual potential fill the seat.

Not sure Grove gave anyone the ass.
Sounds like as soon as the Kelly's sold up, Andre didn't want to be there.

[TheArrow]

Well he always said he was there for loyalty and when the one you're loyal to is no longer directly associated then why stay?

It's been clear they have been a mid-rear pack team even with the change to Mustangs. A few bright sparks here and there doesn't make them a competitive team.

He needs to go somewhere that will consistently provide him with a competitive car. It seems BJR, WAU and Tickford are the only ones left that can offer that to him. With Percat (allegedly) leaving it opens the door there. Tickford have only confirmed one of its 4 cars, and WAU seems to have a spare seat too.

Any one of those three would be a better place than GR. BJR is naturally at the bottom rung with Tickford and WAU pretty close to each other. I personally would like to see him at either WAU or Tickford.

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[stevo qld]

Grove made a mistake, should have gave Davey the ass.

Holdsworth has had his chances, needs to stay out of a full time gig and let someone with actual potential fill the seat.

Not sure Grove gave anyone the ass.
Sounds like as soon as the Kelly's sold up, Andre didn't want to be there.

I agree that Davey should have been given the go away, he has shown a lack of loyalty to a lot of teams in the past. He is sometimes fast, but often erratic.

Andre was likely on a low starters type salary at Kelly's and his driving prowess surely entitles him to a bigger salary now.

Grove, on the other hand is establishing a new team, effectively, albeit with a lot of the Kelly staff and equipment.

He doesn't need two highly paid drivers at this stage and seems to agree to the Andre release on good terms.

Andre would be on a good wicket at BJR, as would BJR, particularly when Nick has demonstrated his contract shredding skills, a-la-Reynolds.

Of the two, BJR is a lot better off with Andre as Nick has had time to demonstrate his prowess and has been erratic.

I like Holdworth at Grove.as he is a competent driver and will surely assist the Mentoring of another driver through Super 2 in a Nissan (probably).
If Davey runs true to form, Holdworth might be the lead driver by 2023 anyway with a new Grove trained whizkid in the other seat.

Now that a new Supercars owner has been chosen, effectively the last man standing, the REC restriction may not apply soon anyway.

To sum it up, any team owner that enforces a contracted driver to drive his cars when the Driver does not wish to do so, is asking for team chaos.

P.S. We purchase our contacts at Aldi for under $9 for 24 rolls.

[CP]

Thought from left field...

Speaking of broken contracts. Was it a ploy by drivers to make themselves available for the 88 seat?

That is an interesting point.

[hsv8fan]

As David Reynolds has proven time and time again with multiple teams, contracts are not worth the dunny paper he draped all over Rick Kelly's desk back in the day.  Team owners know that there is no gain in holding a driver to a Contract if he/she does not want to drive for them.

Wherever the chips fall, good luck to all the teams and drivers in 2002.

This is increasingly the time of pay drivers in Supercars, i.e. Daddy's money or an associated Sponsor's money, or even your own money if one runs a company or porno type website.  Some teams absolutely need pay drivers.

Tough luck to the drivers hoping to advance based on talent.

When the music stops in the game of musical chairs, Jack Le Brocq looks like the one left standing in the corner.

Macauley might fall on his sword for the sake of the company and run Super 2. Hazelwood is still a chance, or at least a few wildcards and an endurance ride with MSR or BJR. (Remember that MSR only own a single REC at last announcement, with the second on loan from a Hazelwood supporter.)

There are a couple of other drivers lurking in the background, such as Kurt Kostecki, Chris Pither and Renee Gracie (with family money, sponsor money or personal money too.)

P.S. BJR has had a big win. Getting Heimgartner and losing Whatsisname. ( Ah! yes, just remembered Percat.)

The whole contract thing is a big farce. Teams (Employers) if they sack a player/driver (employee) generally have to pay out the existing contract, but if a player/driver (employee) chooses to leave and go to a competitor, they generally get their way with no compensation going back to their previous employer. Just once I'd like to see an employer dig their heels in and and call to account those that want to break their contract.

Alternatively, if employees want to continue being able to to walk before completing contract then employers should have the option of terminating an employee before contract is finished with no compensation payable.

It will all be in the wording/conditions of exit clauses of the contract 

[Bloopy]

Just once I'd like to see an employer dig their heels in and and call to account those that want to break their contract.

But you did, surely. Erebus vs Shane van Gisbergen dragged out from the beginning of 2013 until mid-2014 before it was eventually settled out of court.

[skaifeman]

As David Reynolds has proven time and time again with multiple teams, contracts are not worth the dunny paper he draped all over Rick Kelly's desk back in the day.  Team owners know that there is no gain in holding a driver to a Contract if he/she does not want to drive for them.

Wherever the chips fall, good luck to all the teams and drivers in 2002.

This is increasingly the time of pay drivers in Supercars, i.e. Daddy's money or an associated Sponsor's money, or even your own money if one runs a company or porno type website.  Some teams absolutely need pay drivers.

Tough luck to the drivers hoping to advance based on talent.

When the music stops in the game of musical chairs, Jack Le Brocq looks like the one left standing in the corner.

Macauley might fall on his sword for the sake of the company and run Super 2. Hazelwood is still a chance, or at least a few wildcards and an endurance ride with MSR or BJR. (Remember that MSR only own a single REC at last announcement, with the second on loan from a Hazelwood supporter.)

There are a couple of other drivers lurking in the background, such as Kurt Kostecki, Chris Pither and Renee Gracie (with family money, sponsor money or personal money too.)

P.S. BJR has had a big win. Getting Heimgartner and losing Whatsisname. ( Ah! yes, just remembered Percat.)

The whole contract thing is a big farce. Teams (Employers) if they sack a player/driver (employee) generally have to pay out the existing contract, but if a player/driver (employee) chooses to leave and go to a competitor, they generally get their way with no compensation going back to their previous employer. Just once I'd like to see an employer dig their heels in and and call to account those that want to break their contract.

Alternatively, if employees want to continue being able to to walk before completing contract then employers should have the option of terminating an employee before contract is finished with no compensation payable.

It will all be in the wording/conditions of exit clauses of the contract

Or whether there was a contract in the first place...
Brad Jones has done handshake deals even up to as recently as Jason Bright.

Percat formally leaving BJR: Only place up from BJR is WAU or Tickford.
https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/percat-announces-shock-bjr-departure/

[murph_fan51]

https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/heimgartner-to-join-bjr-in-2022/

And Heimgartner to take that seat.